I am not for talk about removing anyone, to me its clear there must be some changes, rubbing peoples nose in their fear is not going to help getting their cooperation.

Thank you for reacting Vike, i would love to hear how scorched is promoted behind the scenes. I would love to hear how i can help at this effort, its not a small task getting trough the massive commercial cabal.

Hi IrishBandit :

If you will read the thread again, you should see that what was proposed
was retiring them into an Emeritus position. This postion retains them as
an admin in stasis. They would only lose the power to vote and and their
access to the private forums. They are not being disgraced, just retired.

Reactivation to full status would require nothing
more than their renewed interest and a request.



This allows us to determine the number of voting members.
After that, we can determine a quorum and/or decide if more
admins are required to have a properly sized body of officers.

There are very few admins that are currently involved.
Without the abilty to determine a quorum, votes are a sham.

Please detail your objections to this course of action.
Simply saying that you object is not a sufficient argument.


Thanks,

Rommel

P.S. - Subject: Thread.... Don't make me lock you! Grrrr!

To All :

The thread suggested above contains many good posts.


This post by Peanut's Revenge is one of the best posts that he has made.

The intent is not to clutter this thread with old posts but instead, my best
honest attempt at focusing the attention on what I percieve to be the most
critical problem at hand.


I must go destroy the world now. Krieg ohne Hass

Sincerely,

Generalfeldmarschall Erwin J. E. Rommel

P.S. - E.L.P. was selected as the background music because P.R.'s most excellent post, still turns me on.

bigbear@ Romm
"It's too bad really that you have to bury the good ideas you actually do have under a huge pile of unnecessary blabber and pettiness. You push for answers to your own questions but rarely answer any directed at you. If you indeed are trying to be a voice for the players, let me say as one of them that you are not doing a very good job. Few others would keep me from speaking up when I actually do agree with you simply because you are being such a prick about it. Too bad indeed ..."

Bear said a mouthful.

This seems as good a place as any to post this.

I am working on proposal to add a number of new developers to the dev list.

I'll be asking gavin for appointment of a lead moderator, lead developer and lead admin to actively manage these groups.

I will request that votes on all sever matters and game development priorities be held in the private forum by both all three groups together.

We need a much larger group for voting on things. Certain things need to be voted privately to avoid mess.

August 23, 2010 - Progress Report :

Dear Players and Forum Users :


Introduction :

The progress update was delayed for several months in the hopes of
having better news to share with you. Unfortunately, additional time
failed to produce the results that many of us seem to feel required.

I apologize for my inability to produce suggestions that can be easily
understood and hope that some of you will help me to improve them.


Administrator Rules and Responsibilities :

As noted by Viking the discussion on keeping new players off of the
main server appears to have been concluded.

Due to posts like those made in XTC's thread on forum moderation, BOY
closed the Administrator forum on March 9, 2010. Although he stated
that it was a temporary closure it remains in effect. I will respect his
decision until he or someone with more authority reopens the forum.

Several of the Administrators ignored the closure and used the cooling
off period to vote in another new rule that all of us need to consider.

The proposed rule allows Administrators to override the FFA definition and
ban players that they find annoying. The need for this new rule was reported
to be that a player was observed killing their team mates on the team server.

If implemented, this rule seems likely to cause more problems for the
future of Scorched 3D than it does to prevent them. These types of rules
should be avoided and I encourage all that value fairness to oppose them.

Increasing the penalty for team kills seems to be a more sensible and effective
method of addressing this activity than banning players that we desperately
need to survive. Rules that are built into the game are enforced fairly without
causing personal and possibly, long term, lingering conflicts with the players.

Note : It was mentioned that if this rule had been in effect the last time that
Rommel was banned, there would have been no problem. This in spite of the
fact that (with XTC’s help) I was able to prove that I had done nothing wrong.

To me, it seemed that a more binding and effective way to ban players that
excel at the game was the solution that they wanted and that the team kill
problem provided them the means to seek a way around the FFA definition.

The rule was to become effective on 6-16-2010 and stated that anyone
purposefully making game play not fun, unpopular or deterring people from
playing will be banned.

To some this may mean no dirt, lasers or hogs allowed.
To others it could mean that only MCB + Fuel is allowed.
To others It could go so far as to mean, winning is not allowed.

Regardless of the posted rules, do not annoy any of the Administrators
until this issue has been resolved to your complete and total satisfaction.


Moderator Guidelines and Responsibilities :

In XTC’s February thread on forum moderation, you will find two recent
suggestions that attempt to limit the activities of the Moderators and hold
them accountable for their actions. They do not desire this nor do they see
the need in spite of the fact that some of them have praised XTC’s post.

Moderators remain free to moderate as they see fit. Be that changing the title
of your post, changing things you said, adding things you didn’t post, deleting
portions they don’t like, deleting your entire post or locking your threads to
end the discussion of topics that they don’t personally approve.


Synopsis :

Unless the forum users and the players demand rules to regulate the
Administrators and the Moderators, they will not make the changes that
have repeatedly been shown to be required for your protection and the
future of the game.


Best wishes,


Rommel

P.S. - To Gavin : Apache has gotten off of his chain and
has deleted this post three times over my objections. He
now claims that I am a liar and that the post is full of lies.

P.S. - To Apace : Stop deleting my post. You have no cause.

P.S. - To Peanut's Revenge : There is a message for
you at the bottom of my previous post in this thread.

Perhaps he has, and just chooses to flat out ignore your public requests

Kinda like you eh rom? you know, the public asks for a answer and you flat out ignore them?

Kanga

Moderator Note : You quoted a post to the moderators that was marked for deletion.
The marked post and the quoted portion in your post have been deleted. - Rommel

You are walking a thin line Ol' buddy.

"From your post"~
((As noted by Viking the discussion on keeping new players off of the
main server appears to have been concluded))

BTW-Nice twist you tricky devil

~Under a minimum shot rule to compete in the Main server.~

Rommel-You were not here I assume when the "Main" server was so full;People/Players had to wait until someone quit or had the game kick them to be able to play!! Or, when "Main" & "Scavenger" & "APOC" were full quite a lot of the time. We had so much fun & harmony with so many different people playing;and if 1 bad egg came along(game or forum abuser),They were reprimanded on the spot & if it continued=They would be Banned (Then after cool down time/allowed back)-Then if they messed up=Perma Ban.

Fellow Administrators :


Nothing I have said was twisted in any manner.

I resent Vikings implication that I am lying and
encourage all of you to think long and type little.

Sapiens nihil affirmat quod non probat

If any of you have a charge to make about the
report, then make it with specificity and allow
me to reveal evidence that supports my post.

As many of you have demonstrated recently,
decorum can be shed as easily as a wet cloak.

Nemo me impune lacessit


Rommel

I cant tell if:
A) your nosing by using one of the more known scottish quotes.
-or-
B)threating anyone who disagrees with your proposals.

Of course then again, you may have ment them in a defacto term, in which you mean nothing by them, and if you meant nothing by them,then their really not worth paying attention to?

Step back and think about this next one Rommel, no fancy words are necessary:

Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage - to move in the opposite direction.

This will be my last post directly to you for awhile, It saddens me to know that you fail to understand the opportunities you have had, and squandered to make life long friendships and better changes to this game and community.

Your dreams of flight will get you nowhere, when your lips are pinned to the ground by the weight of your leadened tongue. You crane your neck to look at the sky, but all you can see is the dusty forgotten floor. (copyright: Aug 23, 2010)

Kanga Out!

I did not say you were Lying-If I thought you were;I would of said that outright.

Twisting the facts, maybe (or my meaning).... The rule is not meant to "Keep" new players off/out of the Main Server. It is meant to delay new player entry to the main server to weed out quitters & let them have a chance to get a few kills under their belt before coming into that server. Therefore, eliminating rage quitters & (Pop-in-Pop-Out) trouble makers on that Serious Game Play Server..

"Reach down & pull yur panties out....(They seem wadded up) + You are embarrassing both of us."

ATTENTION :

I did not originally post this thread in the complaint section.
Obviously, it was not a complaint. It was moved here.

That being the case it comes under the compaint section rules.

The out of order posts must stop. Being the original author of
this thread and also one of the moderators of this section, I
feel qualified to moderate this thread and intend to do so.

Only those that have something constructive to add to this
discussion are welcome to post here. If you don't know the
rules, read them. They are in effect and will be enforced.

Consider this your formal warning.

Rommel

Dear All :


It has come to my attention that it was not XTC that helped me when
I had been banned. It was Outer. My sincere apology to you Outer and
thank you again for your timely assistance. I hadn't forgotten your help,
I was just confused about the details.



It was a later event where both XTC and BOY interceded on my behalf.
My sincere thanks again to you both.

Having failed to raise support to oppose the new rule noted above,
the rule appears to be in effect with full blessings from the players.


Caveat emptor,

Rommel

DAM SPAM!

GRRR!
Chineese travel!