Dear All :


It was not my intent to monopolize your time with this post but there was no way to properly address all of the messages that have been flying about by trying to reply to each post individually. That being the case, I have instead tried to address all of the concerns, collectively and in a manner that I hope all of you find to be at least semi-intelligent.

It is my understanding that BOY is not trying to make people leave but is instead, trying to eliminate the policies and tactics that had been allowed recently that were intended to keep others out or to keep them down. His objective, as I understand it, is to return the game to what the older players should remember but several seem to have forgotten.

Deny it if you wish but the Main server was becoming a private server. Those that did not play the way some of the admins instructed were subjected to abuse. Those that complained did so at the risk of being banned from both the game and the forums. The evidence of this is public record.

The control group changes that are being made at this time are the result of the admin groups refusal do the self examination and group policing that they were repeatedly urged to perform. One of the goals that BOY has agreed to undertake is the structuring of the rules and the group in a manner intended to prevent things like this from occurring in the future. This is how he earned my respect as well as my support as the group leader.

This is why I ask all of you stop posting for a bit and to take the time required to reflect and think about things seriously. Those of you that find BOY’s record to be worthy of support, are encouraged to make a post here to that effect. Those that find him to be too harsh need to consider (as I have) that he is fighting for the success of the game while being deluged with attacks from all sides. He has my sincere sympathy and also my concern. I know how it feels. The difference is, he has siezed the Imperium and can do the things that I only dreamed of doing. This is not a stable condition and it needs to end soon.

Some of the recent changes made to the server I liked, others not so much. None of them prevented me from playing well and none of them appeared to adversely affect anyone else.

Those that aren't good enough to play FFA are encouraged to play on the MCB server that Thrax is hosting. That not being suitable, feel free to play MCB on the main server if you desire. Certainly, no one has a right to object to the weapons you use under the FFA rules. On this point, I pledge my strongest support . Be sure to thank BOY for publishing the FFA definition that supports you on this. None of the others saw the need. Not one.

That being said, DO NOT make an issue about what others use and DO NOT pressure others to play your game. Also, please DO NOT cry like girly men when you get killed by a sand hog or a laser unless you are a girly man. Girly men exemptions may be granted in some cases but most likely, girly men will be muted the same as anyone else. It’s the fair and proper thing to do.

This is supposed to be a thinking game. Those only interested in chart shooting might find that playing in target practice mode is much more enjoyable than trying to learn to play properly. Not that anyone wants you to leave, we just want everyone to play the game the way it was intended to be played. Learn to play using some strategy and show off your new moves. You will need them to excell in the next release.

The players using my machine think and use whatever weapon seems best. However, they also reserve the right to use a chart when it suits them. They love to precisely hit MCB chart “masters” with a heavy hog or a funky bomb when a baby missile would have been preferred for the cash and the points. I don’t understand why they enjoy that so much. It makes no sense to me. Neither does MCB.

Chart masters, HA!

Better you should try to master the game.

As for the issue of proper forum moderation, I recently edited out a post in the admin forum. It was not a post that I didn't like but a post that I had solicited. One that I had solicited to support a suggestion that I was wanting to present. This is an easy mistake to make due to the way the BBS set up is currently configured. This is something that I find very disturbing and something that I hope to help make less likely to occur in the near future.

My error was made tremendously more embarrassing because of a rant that I had made a day or so before suggesting that I should be made the head moderator. Not funny stuff. Not funny at all. These forums are very serious business to me. Their protection as well and your confidence in them is one of my main concerns.

Surely those of you that know much of me, trust that I am not easily silenced on topics that I consider to be important to the life of the forums or to life of the game. However, the ability to ban someone (namely me) has been made much easier to accomplish under this system.

In closing, please stop yanking BOY's chain and give him a chance to reform the group. If things are not progessing in the proper direction after a reasonable amount of time has passed, request the explanation you are rightfully due. The daily demands and complaints being hurled at him are delaying his ability to reform the group and delaying the benefit that all of us can expect from having several voices speaking as one instead of having one voice speaking for us all.

Many good points have been made here recently as well as several valid complaints. Some that I consider serious and high priority. Let us organize and form a more democratic group so that we can begin to work on the problems for you, for us all.


Best wishes,

Rommel

Good post.

What i miss is the possibility of active participation of the players and their democratic influence on the process of change.

If the result is that the power is redistributed within the clique everything will stay the same.

What i want to argue for is that we have a discussion about how to structure this community and one essential point i am making is that we need some structure for feedback and communication.

I have been of the opinion that there is a lack there for a long time.

It seem to be impossible to criticize the admin group in a constructive manner.

I want to know what the objections are of what i am saying, what i have gotten so far is denial. To state there is no lack of communication is one thing to prove me wrong there would actually be some action on that front.

Maybe we have different definitions of what communication is. It seems that we cant even get to the point of discussing that.

I do hope the admins get their stuff together and make some improvements on the communicating with the rest of the community. But im not counting on it if you ask us to trust that you do.

If the admins are smart they include players that want to contribute as a partner to build this game. This is where the criticism you get is coming from, for me it is anyway.

Hi bazzz :

Thank you for voicing your support of BOY as the group leader, agreeing to the cooling off period and for offering to draw up a proposal for the interim group structure. Please post this as soon as you can in a new thread and title it as such. Hopefully your thread will encourage others to make suggestions if they see the need but the goal should be posting something that can be "accepted" quickly and without much controversy.

What we need for the immediate future is something that establishes the order required to end martial law and give BOY some room to breath. See : Articles of Confederation. The Bylaws (Constitution) can not be established until we have established order.


Thanks again,

Rommel

Good thoughts.

I'm moving this thread, since its focus us about me, and complaints, to the complaints section as a mirror thread for the other "me" thread there. I'd prefer that the general forum be focused on the game not on admin issues.

Just a quick note to thank boy for his efforts and to show my support for him and all the admins.

and thx for unsubscribe me from the private forum. good new for you, BOY.
I can't be in the same place with rommel as admin. good news for him too. I feel bad for the others. Gavin you should ask more the other admins how they feel. There is alot going on in the background.

U can tnx him for the empty server too.

Cheer up mates ill play ya in merge anytime

Kanga

and for divding the admins group... and more stuff that he did without even telling.

Dear Scorched 3D Lovers :


Being the original author of this thread, I was hoping to have seen
a few more names here before making another post addressing you
collectively. My other hope was that you would allow us the time we
needed to get started on the restructuring.

With that being said, I apologize for not giving you an update before
now and would like to thank you, ALL of you, for your considerate and
considerable show of restraint and patientce with us recently. It has
been noted and is greatly appreciated.

As you may have noticed, the restructuring process is underway.

Our restructuring tasks have been unduly delayed due to internal
resistance to the restructuring. This is currently being addressed.

In an effort to keep all of you updated and prevent another deluge
of posts that would slow the process, I will attempt to make periodic
updates to this thread apprising you of our progress.

Thanks again for you patience with us.


Sincerely yours,

Rommel

I really believe the blaming of the empty server on boy is highly irrational, also factually incorrect.

What all started this was the fact that main was most of the time empty to start with, i don't play very often on main but it was deserted. Since there was no bot you couldn't even play, i waited there for an hour and no one showed up.

The changes he did probably were not all good and it sounds like the way he did it upset too many people. This only reinforced my belief that there is something lacking in the communication. BTW i am still waiting to get some feedback on my suggestions, maybe when the dust settles and the admin group or whats left of it by then will be able to agree on some things that are clearly needed to change the direction this is going.And i am not talking about last month or so.



There is always a lot going on in the background, when it comes to it very few speak up, maybe they don't care enough maybe they are afraid to be heard.

Suggesting tough that others feel the same as you seems to me like you are projecting your feelings onto others. Everyone does that so don't feel insulted or anything. If its true tough why don't you form a group that speaks as one?
Even though you said you quit it is still an option.

since that hasnt happened as long as i have been here i doubt it will happen this time.

I don´t believe whats happening now is the best possible scenario but i hope it will bring necessary changes and save us from the worst possible.

yOu know what Bazzz....Boy's lackey blamed me for it....go figure.

March 2, 2010 - Progress Report :

Dear Players :


Recently, I made motion to retire the inactive admins so that a proper head
count of the voting members could be established. The goal was to then
establish the rules for declaring a quorum and establish the rules required to
begin holding sanctioned votes. After that, we would be prepared to begin
writing the By-Laws required to form a more properly structured group.

My motion failed to receive a second.

This in spite of my pointed reminder that I was not the only admin that had
agreed that this was required in the recent dissussion on the absent admins.

My attempt to implement Robert's Rules has been soundly rejected.

Methods of keeping new players from accessing the main server has been
deemed more pressing than obtaining a head count and setting up a proper
and well organized structure. This is being persued in spite of my assertion
that, due to the lack of players on the server, this is not a pressing issue.

When the voting commenced I raised an objection to the voting
being conducted prior to establishing that a quorum was present.

After pressing the issue that the professionalism that is required is
not being persued, POM called for BOY to eject me from the group.

BOY remains King and retains my support. However, I have not given
him nor anyone else my assurance of silience on matters that should
rightly be shared openly with the players, nor will I.

My pledge to keep the players informed on our restructuring progress
will be upheld until I am removed or until such time that the admins
form a more proper way to provide public updates on the goals and
topics that are currently under discussion for our restructuring.


I must go destroy the world now. Krieg ohne Hass

Sincerely,

Generalfeldmarschall Erwin J. E. Rommel

P.S. - I hope you enjoy the cowbell.

Whilst you do have some good points Rommel and seem to be infatuated with this forum.... Some of us have been scouring the web & promoting scorched3d to bring in new players & working on ways to make the forum & game more appealing to new blood. Do not always think that since we do not always reply to your ideas/demands that something is not going on to promote this game behind the scenes. Also, the devs & others work very hard to see this game prosper.
Most all of us have real lives too and we get around to things as we can-A bit of patience goes a long way

Gavin asked in another thread if some sort of contest could be implemented..... I have nothing in mind as of yet for that venue-Maybe someone else could pose some ideas to the community?

Keep da faith....

I am not an admin but we have had the motion to remove the old admins before and I am against it.