nice,really nice,if you need any help ask me,and i seing some polys that can be saved from the buildings,and maybe you could add streest

looking good! should be a lot more fun than just trees.

Any way we will be able to select using the buildings seperately from the Mod? The reason I ask is because I like keeping my Scorched 3D original and I don't use the Apoc Mod too much but I like the buildings idea.

...OR do the buildings have to be physically placed on a map?

The object layouts are stored in the texture definitions. So if you wanted to, it won't be too hard to just copy/paste the texture definitions that contain cities onto whatever landscapes you want. But I really think you should at least give Apoc 2.0 a try when it comes out. It has a ton of new content and a more polished feel to it, you might like it..

yes you can as Bobirov Mentioned But, I also agree with what bob
said The Apoc 2.0 "When Released" Will be worth making an
exception I think Deathstryker ... Simply Because the Buildings
Map Project is only a taste of what Bobirov is cooking up
I had the privalage to help in other little areas in it and from what I
saw & heard while doing this I had the feeling that Apoc 2.0 Is going to become a legend !

You may very well see me on apoc server 99% of the time and that says alot considering it took me VERY hard work & a VERY long time
to crawl up the ladder to rank 17 on gavins server

But I would throw that all away in a heartbeat to get the chance
to Napalm a Trailor Park or some deer
also the new weapons & their projectiles will draw people
in crowds

Yes everyone should not only be looking forward to the release
of Scorched3d version 38 but more Importantly... Apoc 2.0
It's going to be worth calling into work sick for a few days
and I anticipate the Apoc Server being VERY PACKED.

So to miss out on that would just be foolish

Well It's good of you to offer help..
I was actually drawn in by luck chance in seeing
Bobirov online & was lucky enough to have
been asked to do a projectile for him..
after that it was 2 weeks of self modivation and ideahs
but, I am not the one to ask in these matters
I mearly helped.

Bobirov is the one you should talk to because
he is the one who does all the hard work.
he Codes & places anything he likes in it.

I have seen some of your weapons and projectiles and have to say
they are good, but Again' I am not the one making the decisions

But he is always looking for great ideahs and I'm sure he would'nt
turn away from others contributing to making apoc 2.0

So if you want to contribute my suggestion is to you or anyone!...
you have to catch him online on the Apoc Newb server
and ask him

(or) post some great ideahs in his post and follow up daily in it.

(or) send him some of your work and wait for a response =)

Remember though he has final say and has the right to decide
what he chooses to be in apoc. so dont be disapointed if he does'nt
like everything you send his way.
He knows what he is looking for when he sees it
(in simple terms)

and a few of my weapons & Ideahs got the could shoulder
but that was to be expected because Im a nut job =) lol
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Something to ponder on...

Just think.. if everyone chipped in
and helped a little in their own way with contributions
just IMAGINE if you will what scorched would be like?

Well I'll give it a spin. Maybe I will like it. One issue I'm kinda concerned about though is perhaps the poly count that some of these buildings look like they have. I just hope my comp will run alright with them.



How is a Mod more important than the game it's running on?

Tell me if I'm as twisted as Shockwave, but wouldn't it be funny to see deer in some trees hit by a napalm... the trees turn black because they've been burnt, but the deer turn into a standing skeletons....

LOL

Maybe it's just me

LMAO. That's so hilarious to think about.

As I said before, I have seen an upwards of 70,000-75,000 polys on an OFFICIAL landscape with trees enabled. The city layout I have (I have yet to finish the others) runs around 70,000-95,000 polys. So yes the poly count will be somewhat higher than you could see on an official landscape but its not all that much more. Also you have to realize that the particle system is MUCH faster in version 38 so if that is what you are worried about, you probably shouldn't. I may also go back in and butcher Shock's models some more to reduce poly count further (I have done so already with some models). But basically anyone who was able to play with trees enabled before should be able to play with buildings on the landscape. And remember, if all else fails and it still runs slow, you can just disable trees and the buildings will disappear as well, they are just cosmetic anyways so no worries.


I don't think he was saying the mod is more important than Scorched 3D, as that is just silly, the mod can't exist without the game. Rather he was saying that you might have greater anticipation for Apoc 2.0 than for version 38 itself. There is good reason for this as well, there are several changes in version 38 that I specifically requested with the mod in mind (mainly weapons definitions but others as well). There are also many other changes requested by players or otherwise have made there way into v38 that work well with the mod. Many of these new features aren't even put to use in the official, non-modded v38 release as far as I can tell. So basically the mod is showing off more of what the game is capable of than the official rules themselves. And this, I think, is what ShoCkwaVe was trying to get at. Correct me if I'm wrong here.

Okay, I briefly went through and removed some detail from some of the building models to reduce poly counts. In doing so I've brought the poly count average down to about 70,000 on the main city map without reducing the amount of buildings. That is right at the high end of what I have seen on official landscapes with trees enabled. So now more than ever I think that if you could play with trees enabled before you'll be able to play with the building layouts I have.

So I guess we'll start small here and if things work out okay we can always add in more details later. We shall see.

Ofcourse, Version 38 is going to be what everyone has been waiting for... and I never meant that apoc was more Important

I am just trying to get people to realize that the new apoc 2.0 is
going to be a great looking mod to 38 with great new features
after all... many changes have been made since 37.2 & Apoc 1
So I anticipate the release of both 38 & apoc 2.0 will make alot of people
happy.... " If & when that ever happens"

((Hint Hint)) Please hurrY!!

and with that in mind ...that with all the people working to help in the
background Scorched 3D & Apoc 2.0 Is going to be worth waiting for

Thanks to Gavin.Bobirov,& everyone who helped ((combined))
relentless Hard Work & their ability to keep everyone
in mind with their oppinions/ideahs ..IT'S GOING TO ROCK!!

Hense ... Version 38 is not the only thing people are waiting for

In lamens terms of what I was trying to say:

.... We want to play with the New Weapons & bloW up sOme buildings
with theM DaMMiT! HURRY UP!!!!

Thanks for taking your time to do that. I really didn't realize that there were less trees on the levels with buildings. I thought they both coexisted equally. That's where my worries came in since I originally thought the buildings were going to be quite a bit extra.

Just tried out version 38 last night, with the buildings, and I've a suggestion...

While they do look nice, I think it might look better if they could be clumped together in groups a bit more - so that it looks a bit more like towns & villages than a random scattering of buildings. Roads and stuff would be good too, of course.