I think you're both way off, and you should quit witch hunting. 'Specially Rommel.

First:

Careful with that. There's a bug in this version that causes random kicks giving the message 'disconnected (user)'. (and are you saying you don't approve of such tactics, btw? 'cause it sounds very similar to self-dirting)


Second:


Some people don't, though, and that kind of (unfair) advantage in the wrong hands (i.e. one who doesn't struggle without cheating), can raise a players skill to aimbot level.


Third:

Web cams and streaming. Lots of people play on dial-up and old computers. I think it's a stupid idea, and it wouldnt prove anything.


I made a quick video yesterday. I've not been much for scorching lately, but it's enough to prove a point.

http://www.filedawg.com/QOEISDIH01J9/capture.avi.html (100MB xvid)

Password is: scorched

The first three shots were genuine, the last one was choreographed offline. See if you can spot the difference.

No sorry, no firewire port, but I do have an S-Video out port on my video camera. I'll have to look into connecting it to my laptop and see if I can record to the hard drives.

It sounds like you're trying to admit to being an assisted shooter. No problem with me if you are. In fact, if you are, thanks for saving us the trouble of having to play to find out. On the official servers, you are allowed to measure your sceen, use calculators, anything really as long as you don't alter the source code. I'd venture that the majority of those with a high kill ratio are assisted shooters that are too proud to admit it. Kind of like the bald guy we've all seen wearing an obviously fake hairpiece, or the ancient old woman with the bright red hair.

Some people have a problem admiting things they think they can hide.

Let me know something either way about being an assisted shooter. Although it is officially allowable, I'm not interested in a 1 on 1 challange or tournament action with anyone that can't play unassisted and prove it. Not that I'm trying to hide from assisted shooters, far from it. I'm killed by them several times a day.

I think you both agree to a challenge.

Im not interested in the rationale to avoid the challenge.

Get it over with or admit you dont trust things enough to let the challenge ever happen.

Im getting pretty annoyed with you tough guys.

Bonjour Monseigneur bazzz:

Au contaire, ceci n'est pas correct.


The intent of the video option that I have been advocating, was to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that all of the participants are playing honestly without ANY assistance. There would be no point in using video to prove the unassisted shooting skill of the participants if one of the parties intended to use an assisted shooting method such as charts, tables, grids, custom maps, spreadsheets, etc..

Sadly, this idea seemed to upset some of the games "better" players when Peanut's Revenge proposed it for the Christmas tournament last year. The good thing is that Christmas is still several months away, which leaves everyone ample time to learn how to shoot without aids if they are interested in trying to better themselves.

However, since it is not prohibited to use aids, other than modified code, I suppose that official tournaments would have to allow these things. The problem seems to be that even though it appears that a great many people use shooting aids, few if any, seem to have the courage to admit it. So even though assisted shooting (not cheating) would have to be allowed, it seems doubtful that assisted shooters would participate if they knew that they would be exposed.

As for your previous post about concealing an extra monitor running an applet, thank you for the tip. Not having any experience with assisted shooting (other than dying quite rapidly and on a regular basis) there may be many methods that could be used that I have not contemplated.

A wide angle view of the area prior to the first shot, combined with a few random requests for a wide angle view during the game, should be sufficient to prevent that type of mischief from occuring.

Please provide any other tips that assisted shooters might use to avoid exposure, if you can think of any that a wide angle view might fail to reveal. It would be great to finally be able to have a tournament where everyone can be relatively certain that they are playing in an honest contest against honest opponents. Perhaps then we could have a playoff of the top 10 killers at the end of the series. No, not by rank, by kill ratio.

Au Revoir Mes Amis,

Rommel

Dear rommel,

I do admit that i wasnt correct in stating you both agreed to a duel, you both were merely suggesting you could kick each others behind.Please do not let this little mistake spoil my true intention- i want to tease you just enough to make this "challenge" happen.

I`d love to have a server where people could play 1v1 and have a video feed for spectators where we can prove our real skill.

later menne moat,

bazzz

Dear Rommel,

I believe you may have a sticky note over my post, please remove it.


Ps:
I would happily challenge either of you to a duel of any kind, web cam or otherwise.

I demand satisfaction!

Hi POM:

I'm sorry that we walked all over you post. This will be my last off topic post in your thread. Hopefully you found where I agreed with your idea about splitting the round win points and the other ideas that I added.

Hi LT:

We weren't hunting witches but just so you know, witch hunters learned, over 300 years ago, that witches wear buckle shoes and pointed hats with a brim.



Fearing that a great many eleves and gnomes may have been wrongly killed prior to this discover, witch hunters from that day forward were strictly taught to pay particular attention to hats and shoes. Since your hat doesnt have a brim and you aren't wearing buckle shoes, you should be safe even though it seems a bit odd that you aren't wearing elf shoes.

About the players working around the fix that was recently implemented to prevent this type of thing ... I was just trying to let someone in authority know that the fix had a flaw.

What I was referring to has been happening more frequently recently. There are some players that will come right back and say : "lol ... it's better than getting killed." That isn't a random bug kicking them.

Your small print refernece to dirt seems irrational, thus I am at a loss for a rational response. That being said, my relpy is in black to protect those with a weak heart.

BOOOO !!!

I must go destroy the world now. Krieg ohne Hass

With Warm Restraint,

Rommel

love it : ). got to watch for the emblems



ich muss jetzt gehen und mehr Auslaender toeten. Hass fuer den Krieg

respect as always.

schoenen Tag noch

you must go now and(toot?) more foraeigners. haste paired the war

I suppose i can imagine what you meant to say but that wouldnt be very nice to repeat.

pretty sure my german is better than yours, auslaender.

not often i get to say that : ). i say you go find i german, corner it, and make it uebersetzen. you shouldnt trust online translators.

ps:
also pretty sure that doesnt relate to my video

What makes you so sure? I wouldnt say my german is great but i can read german fairly fluently and at first glance i noticed that you spelled ausländer differently,and i cant seem to find your spelling anywhere exept used as a family name.
I also noticed toeten isnt a german word, its dutch and meand tooting.
Lastly i saw you spelled fuer and assumed its incorrect as its usually spelled für in a hasty dictionary lookup i misread and wrongly translated fuer.I am in doubt tough if this is a correct spelling.

It sounds like a challenge if you say your german is better than mine and i would take on that challenge if i knew a good way of determinating.
Maybe you know a way?

ha ha! german contest

entschuldigung, ich verstehe nicht. fragen Sie einen Deutschen Du fauler Sack. dann Kuessen Sie meinen Popo bitte, weil Sie bereits verloren haben. bloedes Arschloch : P (edit, ja, rudeness. can get away with it in german u know) du kannst mich am Unaussprechlichen lecken

real time webcams could work, i guess. have to prove youre not checking a phrase book.

ps:
my grammar is horrible, i know, aber quit while youre ahead, k? (Nagetiere sehr guten Lehrerin machen ; )

I can understand what youre saying in german quite well, thank god youre more civilised speaking in english.

Weil ich fluhend ein buch lesen kann ,ist mein grammar nicht so gut dar ich deutch nicht zoviel gebrauch.Auch mein wortenschatt ist nur zureichend zu einfache conversationen.
Du hast demonstiert das sie "fussball" deutch can reden, ich solte doch nicht deine popo kusen.Und ich reinigen mein sach tagentlich.

Maar misschien is je duits niet zo goed en kun je je duidelijker uitdrukken in de Nederlandse taal, ik hoop wel dat je een beetje beschaafder kunt zijn.
Ik merk een beetje vijandigheid bij je, waarschijnlijk komt dat omdat je me als arrogant ervaart.Inderdaad is dat een pretentie die ik gebruik om mensen uit te dagen maar ik kan je verzekeren dat het niet mijn bedoeling is om je te beledigen.
Dus als je dit uitvogelt: waarom ben je zo grof in het duits? ik zie twee mogenlijkheden of je voelt je onzeker of je kent enkele scheldwoorden en kunt niet anders dan ze gebruiken.

If you like to have an conversation in german or my native language i welcome you but please try to be less rude, or i may piss myself laughing

ha ha, yes. didnt edit in time. auslaenders. got to watch'm, i hear theyre very rude ; )

i speak even less dutch than german, so, i concede : ) "fussball" deutsch

ps:
you didnt offend me. my german is very limited. love those german insults

You got to love them for being the masters of insults, many of them rectally inclined too.English insults are more leaning toward the groin, and we dutch just have a special love for wishing horrible diseases upon the other.