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First, about the TC (total conversion) thing, lets just drop that term since its being thrown around like it means something specific. You want to make a mod thats stuck in first person mode (you cant cause people to be stuck in a specific camera mode currently). You say you dont want to use other peoples ideas but you ask for someone to make the ‘projectiles’ for you. Now, if you make the ak47 weapon model you have done 2 things. You have made a 3d icon for when you have the weapon selected to fire, and you have possibly made a model to use to pick the weapon up off the map. Asking someone to do the rest is asking someone to do most of the work. Thats ok, but, your still not realy using your ideas.
Also, take a look at scorched ops mod, its a great mod bobirov has been working on for awile now. Instead of tanks your guys with guns, there are diffrent classes of guys you can be. It has similar weapons to some your making models of. I’m not bringing it to your attention for any other reason then it sounds similar to what your trying to do.
The point is, the whole fun part of making a mod is acualy making the weapons, the xml side of it. Just makeing the models isn’t nearly half the work. Just dive into it.
Check all the info on that link. Just about everything you need to know is right there. Start by looking at some weapons you like in other mods and then figure out how they work. You will no doubt have tons of questions when you start messing with the xml, and as long as you at least make some sort of attempt to figure it out on your own, there are tons of people that will help you out. Just narrow your questions down to small bits and you will be suprised how much help you recieve.
Good luck, its not very tough 🙂
Oh and btw, your models are looking great. What kind of triangle counts do they have?
2 versions of a pig projectile. The one with a tail is funnier to me, but its like 100 more triangles. I dunno, other then the tail they are the same. Tell me what ya think.
Funny thing, today I was just minding my own business in the grocery store. Got to the counter, case of cheap malt liquer, pack of smokes, 3 cheap microwave pizzas and at the counter I notice, for 1.99$, a dvd of 27 classic pink panther cartoons. Go figure. So anyway, if I add the case of beer and the dvd together I might find a few more things that you didn’t even know you wanted yet 🙂 Also, I think you could manage to sneak a funny sound or two in there too.
I am working on a pig model right now too hehe.
Ah, you beat me to the post cbx. Yeah, square shields confused me, as in what are they for? Then I noticed (it took awile to notice acualy) you have xyz dimensions for them instead of just size. I tried something similar minus the rollers (good idea btw) where you shot a bomb and it blew up with no damage or anything, but spawned 4 tall square shields around the target. The idea being shoot it real low and fast and have it trap the shooters shot before it gets out (and at you). In practice the shield fence had to be realy wide before it cought many shots at all. But, a smaller version with tall shields realy messes up your targets shots, if they aren’t shot high enough to clear the sides they turn into falling bouncing doom. Or, they freak out and go flying at great speed in random directions. I liked both effects but never used it for anything.
The hardest part was getting them to be a square fence, and not 4 square shields rotated the wrong way. I ended up just using north/south/east/west directions so the sides were always parallel to one of the map sides.
On an unrelated note, how cool would it be to be able to add shields to projectiles? Anyone ever think about that? So you can have a weapon that is realy just a moving bouncy wall you could use to deflect shots. I have been trying to brainstorm some cool defensive weapons, something all new and interesting.
Is there a way to set a velocity change for just bots? The reason I keep bringing up a grav change or a velocity change for ALL weapons is that, and I’ve tried this, if the grav is real low, or if shot velocity is locked to 1000 or 1200 or something, it makes the bots shoot realy hard. What that in turn does is make the bot overshoot every shot, right into the roof, and sometimes (especialy with rollers) they acualy roof you. I have done some experimentation on making weapons work diffrently for diffrent tanks. If nothing else it might be worth making bot specific weapons that have locked high velocity and just not letting them buy normal weapons.
I dont realy mean something like that to help players, although it might be worth trying to set it so a damaged player can still shoot the full 1000 power so there is no excuse but to roof. I just wish the bots would hit the roof, I hate not roofing even the AI, its still cheating 🙂
And yeah, I’ll help in any way I can, lemme know what you need.
Missing the roofmod. Can I help with whatever needs help with?
Are you still against grav/velocity change?
Huh, I thought I deleted all of that mod, I was wrong hehe. Anyway, here are the smoke textures from it if you want to try them out.
I think it would be alot easier to just have a bunch of mirv’s with diffrent shapes to choose from in the weapon buy screen. Adding something like that to the acual game seems like quite a bit of work because there isn’t realy anything similar. And about random mod, I like the idea but I think it would be more interesting to go further with it somehow. At the same time, I’m not sure if that would end up just being a novelty mod, in the mods that have a weapon that explodes in a random way (usualy by picking from a bunch of weaponrefrence’s ) I very rarely see people try to use them.
Oh yeah, sorry, I forgot I had an icon for that too. BTW, I just ripped that out of my mod and changed the name. I am not using it either way, so feel free to change whatever or just ditch it. Also, I think it looks a little cooler with the custom textures I have for smoke, but, there is no way to use multiple smoke textures. Originaly it was made as a weapon that would kill with 1 direct hit against shields in the mod I was working on, so I would imagine it is way overpowered. Either way, I will attach the icon thing (its just a pink swoosh looking thing for weapon selection icon).
I think what I meant to just say was change it however you want and dont feel you need to use it just cause I spammed it here 🙂
Oh yeah, I will try to do a pig model for you tonight (or tomarro). Gotta go check your server and see how the dogs look heh.
Well, I tried to do a cartoon style fat cat. I think it didn’t come out so great, the face looks bad. But, its so small you can pretend it looks better 🙂March 11, 2007 at 11:55 pm in reply to: Interesting articcle for anyone thinking of trying Linux #40614
Just wanted to add a bit about software installation not working well in linux. I found the oposite to be the case. Think about it like this. A clean install of xp pro on a computer, what starts out missing? Drivers, a bunch of stuff to get games working (directX) codecs etc. These are the same basic things missing in linux. The greatest thing I have experienced in linux so far is apt-get. There realy is no windows version. When I connect online it tells me what can be updated. Not security updates. Every piece of software I installed with synaptic or with apt get will auto update. It doesn’t sound like a big deal when you read that, but its pretty huge.
I have installed about 30 programs on my laptop in less then 1 month. I’m running ubuntu, and I have very limited linux knowledge. As far as the help guides to getting things done goes, the reason I’m having good success is this. When I see a line saying ‘just enter this line in a terminal and your set’ I dont type it in. I paste it in a text file and I figure out, with built in help and at online help, exactly what it’s trying to do. That may take a bit of time, but you are activly trying not to mess things up. Also, before I start changing things I at least figure out how big a deal it is to change it back. I read the first article cbx posted and was thrilled to know that I’m not the only person to remove the ubuntu desktop or whatever package when removing other software. But you know what? I might do it again, good thing I know how to fix the situation now.
I too miss dos days some times, but everything is so complex now. While it is great to have the ability to go in and manualy tweak all settings, you first need a basic idea of how to work with them. Not even that, you need to know quite a few commands to find what you want to tweak in the first place. I would have to say that the majority of casual PC users dont know many, if any, dos commands. I know for a fact that people have used newer versions of windows successfully without knowing the ‘dir’ command. People are stumped when they see long file names truncated in a command prompt. While its great to have the ability to do that, its not something people can jump right into. Many people dont want that power, they just want to be productive, whatever that may mean.
But, with newer distro’s of linux you can set up a functional machine almost entirely point and click style. Synaptic installs packages with no problems more often then not. And overall I have hit dead ends trying to fix windows issues more then linux. Because with linux, if you have the motivation to learn, you have the source to the OS, and almost every other piece of software you find for it. That is where the real power lies. Thats also why its such a nerd breeding ground, but chicks are starting to dig that so get with it.March 10, 2007 at 7:05 pm in reply to: Interesting articcle for anyone thinking of trying Linux #40608
I just wanted to add a few personal notes to this. I am not upgrading to vista, period. I wont bother getting into why. So this computer, my desktop is going to stay xp pro because there are some specific programs I must use windows to run. But, I have recienty tried the linux experiment again. Years ago I tried a few distros of linux (rh more then anything) and had problems in general. It didn’t last very long.
One nice thing for me is I have a laptop. So I decided to try running linux on it on a whim. A friend is working on some cool linux only software (Aldrin, its a music application in the works) and I realy wanted to support him while also using the software. He, being quite the linux nerd, told me I should try ubuntu because it seems to be the most idiot friendly to install these days. I dont want to start an argument over that last line btw.
So a few things I’ve noticed. Ubuntu was way faster to install then xp. I did a clean install, no dual booting. Then I was thrust into the world of linux applications and the joys of synaptic packet manager. Man, at first I didn’t like that method of software installation but after spending some time getting things running its great. I have had some issues getting specific things to work. It took me almost 20 hours combined to realize that I was having trouble moving files between the 2 computers (using 2 ethernet cards and a crossover cable) because I didn’t realize you had to manualy type ‘binary mode’ in the terminal ftp client and all my transfered files were garbled. Small problems with easy answers that are sometimes hard to find.
I reciently tried messing with beryl (makes your desktop look neater basicly) and initialy had some bad luck. I read some forums, got a few incorrect answers and ended up spending some time figuring it out on my own. I realy just ended up learning how to force an older package version to be installed.
I’ve had a few issues compiling source code into working applications. Mainly because its something I had never done in linux. The bottom line is, yes, it takes some work to migrate over to another OS especialy linux. Yes, you will find out you were not born with the ability to write shell scripts and pick the right package to install to make things work. Yes, you will have to learn a few things to get going. But the same could be said of any of the mac os’s too. In fact, I realy dont like osx. To me it feels like too much is hidden from you with menus and pretty animated spinning things. This is most likely untrue in general though, and the problem is I dont have much experience with macs.
Making things work in XP for example seems to be realy easy. That is until you try to do something that doesn’t work and you have to figure it out on your own. XP is not always an easy OS to use, especialy when you start doing less normal things, as in, things that people havn’t written 564319 guides for online already. You cant argue that directly editing the registry can be daunting and easily destructive. I mean, you can argue anything, but give me 5 minutes with a registry editor and I promise I could make you a week long headache hehe.
Linux, speaking as an ubuntu user at least, has some drawbacks for me specificly. First off, I have a dialup connection. You will enjoy working with linux (at first especialy) with a decent connection to the internet. When you install the first few programs you will end up with tons of dependies. Synaptic handles all of that pretty much on its own, but a 30 meg download for me isn’t a quick thing. Then again, the SP packs for xp are huge too. Linux doesn’t always make sense if your thinking in windows terms also. The way the directory and file structure is with linux is quite a bit diffrent. Also, unlike in windows, linux requires you to have a very basic understanding of user accounts. Realy, just that you know not to be logged in as root all the time. On xp you just login as an admin 99% of the time without thinking about it. If you think for a second about security in general youll realize what a bad idea that is. Its not that you have to log in like that in xp, its that most people tend to.
Linux doesnt have software that will take the place of every windows application you use and need. But, I feel you gain a better understanding of computing, and also whatever skills you have developed with them. I do alot of work with music and audio, I have found that spending years learning a piece of software allows me to learn new fairly similar software much more easily. I personaly dont want to be so attached to a piece of software that when I am removed from it I am useless. Just because a linux program doesnt do exactly what a windows program does doesn’t mean you cant use it and be creative and accomplish what your trying to do in the first place.
Hmm, that is horribly explained. I would rather think of myself as a musician, able to adapt to other software and instruments, instead of being realy good with a specific piece of software. I understand some people saying they dont have time to relearn new software, to reinvent the wheel or whatever. But, in my mind there must be learning involved in all progress.
In short (er, hehe) linux is getting better and better all the time. Your first like 20 problems you encounter while trying it will be 20 problems 18 billion (acual number) of people have had too. The linux community is not always as kind and helpfull as some would have you believe because it is made up of people. But, in general when you join a linux chat group or forum, it seems the people trying to help are more helpfull then in the windows forums. Thats just my experience and I also dont want to argue about it.
My only real suggestion is to try to pick up a cheap used computer to try it with instead of trying to dual boot. If youve never repartitioned your hard disks before there is a decent possibilty your gonna screw up. If you’ve never backed up all your data and reinstalled an OS from scratch your very possibly not going to back up everything you need to rescue a botched formatting attempt. You could easily spend 200$ on a used computer (you realy dont even need another monitor or keyboard/mouse if you just want to see what its all about, just unplug them and switch computers) and have it run great. I have found that, as an OS, my ubuntu install on my laptop is much faster and less bloated then XP was on the same computer. It was a simplistic install, and when it was done I had very little to do to get it functional. The way the windows OS is going, the general direction, frightens me. Its good to know there is a fully functional alternative that costs nothing. Have you priced out the full versions of vista yet?
EDIT: Wow that was long. One last thing, about the 64bit thing. I dont know if many people worked with the 64bit XP, but I tried it and it was a horrible experience I will not repeat.
Also, if you install ubuntu, check out http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
Its realy helpfull for clean installs, read up on what it does.
oh yeah, this is a real simple weapon, but i think the projectile look at least would be cool.
np ellie, i might make a few less serious tanks too.
and panther, check the prarie dog 🙂
ps: I will work on a cat and the war of the worlds ship as soon as i get a chance, wanna finish a few things for panther first.