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So whatever happened to the likes of: dire wolf, Viking, Willis…most of the older crowd?
Haven’t seen them for awhile now 🙂
I don’t use any specific camera angle. When the map loads, I get a top down view of the entire landscape and navigate from there. I move the turret by pointing to a spot and hitting the A key. Are you saying this angle doesn’t work for you?
The only time I ever use a camera angle is angle #4. I use it to snipe or to see if my line of vision is obstructed.
Yes Karu, I remember you. I have been able to find a lot of games lately. usually during the day. I miss those nightly slaughterhouses when it was nearly impossible to get into a game due to too much traffic.
The first game I played after my long hiatus was embarrassing. I embarrassed myself, my family, and future generations. But the game still ended in a tie because my opponent felt sorry for me and started giving me money. I appreciate his valor but it was not a good move. [-X
Chopper’s the only true ‘vet’ that’s still a regular.
DireWolf was about for a while, not seen for a month or so now though 🙁
Welcome back though. Hope to see you on the servers soon, or atleast around the forum more often (we need all the posters we can get atm)
EDIT: I guess I should also mention DeathBal who still sticks his head in now n then, but now that there are so few players and therefore donations, he has no Toll to collect, so he’s rarely here 🙂
I don’t capitalize the “b” in Deathbal. Remember that, Peanutsrevenge. 😀
Would be nice to attract more people. I miss the nights when I had to fight just to get a spot in the next game. This game just doesn’t get enough exposure.
That is really nice looking. 😀
Sometimes a lot of oil can be a good thing. Shhh, don’t let our President know.
Yea, that’s really not accurate at all. Most people work without monetary incentive, yourself included.
You were an admin here, you didn’t get paid anything for it, you got wound up at time, had to put time and effort in, that’s work!
We all help others all the time whether it’s to help them move house, set up a computer, fill out tax returns whatever… we do it to help those around us.
You’re talking about volunteer work. Things people enjoy, believe in, want to help. I am not talking about that. Put it this way, if my job said to me, we’ll give you 80% pay to stay home or you can come to work for the rest, what do you think I am going to do? I am going to stay home.
In a resource based economy, a small percentage of people would be needed to actually DO work, that small percentage would be easy to find, in fact, I believe people would have to be turned away or hours cut in order to allow everyone the chance to participate in the activities they’d to be a part of.
Absolutely. But it is basically the same thing, just a different incentive. A better one of course. You wouldn’t have an unemployment problem because the more the merrier. Just cut hours if need be, it won’t make any difference because priority is getting the job done. Technology and abundance would drive this.
A good example is many many years ago people would spend most of the day toiling just to feed themselves. In many places today it is an afterthought. Take money away and the same would happen with jobs. Priority would be getting the job done, not how few people it takes working the maximum amount of hours.
And just as a final point in this post, there are many who say people won’t work for free or some monetary gain. Well, I believe this game and forum are a great example of how that’s not true, I’m quite sure this all costs Gavin money rather than making him money, but he maintains it for the love of it. We all have interests and happily help others with things we care about all the time without needing a monetary incentive, just because it helps others and is enjoyable is incentive enough. 😀
One last thing before I watch the rest of 3. Gavin is a rarity in today’s climate. I have always been a firm believer that if someone need not work, they won’t. But again, that only applies to a monetary system. You work for money to survive. If you can survive without money there is little motivation to work. If you take money out of the equation all bets are off. Now there is a different goal. One with a lot more reward and probably a lot less work.
I am sure we have disagreements, but I am with you so far. The thing with me is, and that I have just now come to understand, is that I am against anything communist in nature. But only within the structure of a monetary system. What we see now is what we should have always expected within a capitalist society. It is greed driven, but I prefer it over a collectivist society using a monetary system. Am I making sense? The Venus Project as I understand it, upends that. It is a lofty goal, but preferable. And probably not in our lifetime.
Firstly, you may wish to split this off to a different topic or onto the oil thread Mr Bunny Wabbit.
Glad you took the time to give it a watch and persevere db. The third one ‘Moving Forward’ is my preferred one for first timers to the series. The first is the worst as it starts off by getting anyone religious who can’t stand to have their religion challenged, to stop watching. Daft!
First of all, I do not consider watching something that may be enlightening as persevering. I actually enjoy it if piques my interest. So I have started to watch the 3rd video.
Let me first start off by stating that I am like my grandfather, an agnostic. Among an entire family steeped in religion he used to wait in the car as everyone else went to church. I remain agnostic despite marrying into another family that is very religious.
That said, pointing out the folly of religion is counter productive to the goals of the Venus Project as I understand it. Christians in general do a lot of good for people around the world. It may not be enough, but their efforts are based on religion. Be careful to not set yourself back due to hatred of religion.
Always remember that there are ultra rich powerful people that are also agnostic and atheist. They probably think that we only live once and want to make the best of it regardless of who they hurt in the process. after all, it doesn’t matter in the end anyway. We all die and are not judged. This is probably not the mindset you want to encourage.
I would like to encourage you to watch the 3 Zeitgeist films I linked in the oil thread, I believe you’ll find them most informative and certainly very challenging especially if you’re thinking of working for that bunch of ****** *** ** ***** ** * **** **** ****!!!!!!!!!!
I watched the second video and halfway through it I said, tell me something I don’t already know. But the second half had me surprisingly intrigued. For a capitalist pig such as myself, that says a lot. They talked about things I never even fathomed. But I have always been one to keep an open mind. Or at least I try to see an alternate POV whether I like it or not.
Maybe the Venus Project could be tested on some remote island with a few hundred thousand people. But the key to that is abundance. Without it, it falls apart. It is a very interesting theory.
I do see one problem however. I don’t think it will ever be done at a large scale. Because if our monetary system fails and the “poop” hits the fan, we will only regress, not progress. When that happens abundance disappears. In other words, the only time available to switch from a monetary system to something else is while the system is still viable. It would be too late once it collapses.
Now to the one thing I disagreed with 100%. Boycotting the military. First of all, if we did that, there would be a draft. Secondly, in today’s world, as it stands now, if the US. does not have a military, we won’t have a country for long. That’s just a reality.
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well that’s the problem. that’s the way it looked from here, too, and i gather it looked similar from elsewhere in europe.
i try keep in mind or assume that if you’d asked probably any average american prior to 9/11 what they thought of the twin towers, they’d probably have answered with “twin what?”
“oh, those office blocks in new york? dunno, never been.”
who stirred up the blood lust?
i don’t suppose it matters. the big point here is that the general taste for war, patriotism and aggression towards the enemy seems to be quite unique to the US, at least among say the g8 or similarly industrialised countries.
I worked within a few miles of the site. I saw building 7 come down right from my workplace. Who stirred up the bloodlust? The constant video tape of planes slamming into buildings. That is what stirred the bloodlust, nothing else. And to say Europe might be immune to such emotions I find hard to believe given their history of war. European conflict is the reason arms advanced as far and quickly as it did. They may claim moral superiority now, as they always have, but that doesn’t mean an attack of that scale would have them screaming for a trial.
I will default to ArmorWraith, who wrote a post that I could only hope to duplicate. There is nothing I can say that was not included somewhere in his post. But one the things were the American people. As a whole I do not think we pay enough attention to what our politicians do. More often than not, we pick a side and support them. We really have to pay better attention.