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  • #7785

    ArmorWraith
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    Hey Mates, I have been looking to upgrade my rig.

    Current Specs:

    1 750 Watt Corsair Power Supply
    1 Nvidia 660ti
    2 1tb HDs
    8gb Ripjaw series Ram:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428
    2 optic drives
    AMD Quad Core Athlon II 630 Propus 2.8Ghz
    Motherboard:
    http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3143#ov

    _____________________
    I am finding the CPU and the Mother board probably need updated.

    I was looking at:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131801
    (motherboard)
    and
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115229
    (processor)

    I would need to buy a fan for it, as it doesnt come with one.

    Does anyone have any ideas/input? I am more than willing to explore alternate components, and definitely point out if there are compatibility issues!

    Armor

    #65959

    PeanutsRevenge
    Participant

    @armorwraith wrote:

    Hey Mates, I have been looking to upgrade my rig.

    Current Specs:

    1 750 Watt Corsair Power Supply
    1 Nvidia 660ti
    2 1tb HDs
    8gb Ripjaw series Ram:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231428
    2 optic drives
    AMD Quad Core Athlon II 630 Propus 2.8Ghz
    Motherboard:
    http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3143#ov

    _____________________
    I am finding the CPU and the Mother board probably need updated.

    I was looking at:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131801
    (motherboard)
    and
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115229
    (processor)

    I would need to buy a fan for it, as it doesnt come with one.

    Does anyone have any ideas/input? I am more than willing to explore alternate components, and definitely point out if there are compatibility issues!

    Armor

    Oh god no, not that CPU. That’s the worst CPU to buy, very expensive and slower than an Ivy or Haswell Quad that’s an equal price (that 3820 has plummeted, it was 50% more last I looked). You’ve also need 4 sticks of memory to make the chip perform ‘optimally’ (quad channel rather than dual channel).

    I’d go:
    Intel:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128671 (good onboard audio & LAN, should have SLI & crossfire support, although I can’t see listed and onboard graphics for quicksync and incase your GPU dies)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116899 (quad core, onboard GPU, no hyperthreading which I’m not a fan of). Can’t tell if it’s a retail or OEM chip (with or without fan), but if you care about silence, you’ll want a third party cooler anyway.

    AMD (adequate CPU good GPU (onboard GPU can be used in parrallel with CPU for big speed boost in applications that support it, also great for when you retire the system it can become a media centre):
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113359
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128653 (same as intel versoin above but DOES NOT have SLI)

    AMD (all the cores, no onchip GPU, getting old as platform nolonger being developed, they’ve switched to the above platform):
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128509 (I have two of these boards for crypto-mining, okay boards, nothing special about them at all)
    OR
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131877 (Good board, should have SLI and crossfire, not shown on newegg though, nothing special about it)

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284 (8 cores, 4 are fully fledged integer/FP and 4 are integer only. Basically they’re designed to do lots of tasks, not game well, they’re hot running and power hungry. DO NOT get a 9xxx series AMD chip, they’re REALLY hot running and will consume the world’s supply of electricity in 5 seconds flat).

    Be careful when looking at benchmarks for stuff, they’re always on clean systems with nothing else running. On a day-to-day system, there’s all kinds of crap going on AND even more annoying, ‘adequate’ these days is pretty quick, think about features and price as much as speed.
    Or, just pick up a second-hand phenom II x6 CPU and chuck it in the board you already have. Will be quite a bit quicker and buy a second monitor 🙂

    #65958

    PeanutsRevenge
    Participant

    BTW Armor, if you have the money now for the computer stuff, but aren’t in a rush to buy (next month or so) and would like to get the stuff cheap, have a think about buying your upgrade budget’s worth of BitCoins.

    The price is really low currently and expected to double (return to where it was) within a month or so TOPS. So if you have $400 now, you could find yourself with $800 to spend instead.

    Newegg will likely be accepting bitcoin shortly aswell:
    http://www.coindesk.com/will-electronic-retailer-newegg-accept-bitcoin/

    So they’ll have caught up with their UK counterparts:
    http://www.coindesk.com/leading-uk-computer-retailer-scan-accepts-bitcoin/ (The guys I usually use)
    http://www.coindesk.com/aria-pc-technology-computer-supply-accept-bitcoin/ (The guys I’m looking to use because Scan have let me and others down a bit lately)

    #65957

    ArmorWraith
    Participant

    What about this motherboard peanut?

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131979

    For the Intel I5
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116899

    I was hell bent on getting an I7, but it seems the I5 you posted looks fine. Do all I5s come with integrated graphics?

    What I am looking to do is max out the next gen games, such as bf4.

    Also, with these i series processors, it seems watercooling is the preferred method. So I guess I need to pick one of those out as well.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181010
    Armor

    #65960

    Chopper
    Participant

    Listen to the ‘Nut….he’s a smart nut….especially on the bTc thing.
    Buy,hold and cash in when it comes back. :D/

    #65961

    ArmorWraith
    Participant

    I read a few reviews online, and indeed it looks like the i5 is exactly what I need, nice power to price ratio, and no hyper threading. Seems like a good deal.

    Anyone know if this stuff gets cheaper via a spring sale? I can certainly wait till then if I have waited this long!

    Cheers,

    Armor

    #65966

    PeanutsRevenge
    Participant

    Pretty much all the i series CPUs have a built in GPU (there’s one per range that doesn’t, but there’s no point getting them as the price/performance is almost unmoved).

    The GPU on intel chips is crap for anything other than video transcoding (which they’re awesome at if you have the right software… Handbrake had an alpha build last I looked) for game streaming, watching or recording.

    The Asus board’s are usually fine if you don’t mind the board being ugly and garish.
    Because the new haswell (1150 socket) chips have much of the voltage regulation on the CPU itself, any board is fine, the only things to look out for are SLI support (if you’d like it) and decent onboard audio (if you don’t have a soundcard).

    Bare in mind for gaming, these days it’s all about the GPU. Better to skimp on the CPU for a bigger GPU budget than to skimp on the GPU for a better CPU.

    I’ve never been a big fan of hyper-threading for any of my workloads. It’s good for seriously hardcore CPU intensive work like video transcoding or rending, other than that, save your money and put the saving into something else (hyper-threading CAN slow the performance for some tasks, although this is getting rarer).

    Thanks Chop, endorsements from you mean SOOOOOOO …… little it’s amazing 😉

    #65962

    Chopper
    Participant

    @peanutsrevenge wrote:

    …blah, blah, blah, blah…
    Thanks Chop, endorsements from you mean SOOOOOOO …… little it’s amazing 😉

    Thanks and the Queen says HI!

    #65963

    PeanutsRevenge
    Participant

    @chopper wrote:

    @peanutsrevenge wrote:

    …blah, blah, blah, blah…
    Thanks Chop, endorsements from you mean SOOOOOOO …… little it’s amazing 😉

    Thanks and the Queen says HI!

    Oh, go on, stick em ma hole.
    Oh baby!

    #65964

    ArmorWraith
    Participant

    So this looks like its going to be my final setup:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131979
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116899
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181010

    Will wait on purchasing though, to see if it gets discounted in the spring sale.

    As of right now, its 490$

    Cheers,

    Armor

    #65956

    PeanutsRevenge
    Participant

    Don’t bother with the H50.

    The watercooling is only when overclocking. Without overclocking they’re cool running and that’s not a ‘water’ cooler, it’s classed as a ‘liquid’ cooler.

    All in one coolers like that really don’t perform like their proper DIY counterparts AT ALL, especially skinny ass ones like that.
    If you REALLY want a liquid cooler, get a dual fan one, if you can’t afford a dual-fan one, then just don’t bother. (if the SKU on it’s right, it comes with it’s own cooler):

    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i5-4670k-s-1150-haswell-quad-core-34ghz-38ghz-turbo-1200mhz-gpu-34x-ratio-84w-retail

    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/intel-core-i5-4670k-s-1150-haswell-quad-core-34ghz-38ghz-turbo-1200mhz-gpu-34x-ratio-84w-oem

    BTW, Intel stuff rarely drops in price ever. Ever stuff that’s replaced TWICE over is still pretty much the same price. (the equivalent previous generation: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504)

    #65954

    ArmorWraith
    Participant

    Bought the above mentioned setup, minus the cooling fans.

    Cheers,

    Armor

    #65955

    PeanutsRevenge
    Participant

    @armorwraith wrote:

    Bought the above mentioned setup, minus the cooling fans.

    Cheers,

    Armor

    Hope it works out. If there’s no cooler, just keep blowing on it, will be good for increasing lung capacity 🙂

    Shoulda gone the btc route. Would have saved yourself a bunch of money, especially if you could wait …. a year before buying the hardware 😉

    #65953

    ArmorWraith
    Participant

    Don’t trust btc. Not interested. Like to keep my money where I can see it.

    Cheers,

    Armor

    #65951

    PeanutsRevenge
    Participant

    @armorwraith wrote:

    Don’t trust btc. Not interested. Like to keep my money where I can see it.

    Cheers,

    Armor

    I do hope you don’t mean that you trust a ‘bank’ and certainly not that you can see your money in the bank!

    You have far more control with crypto-currencies than fiat in a bank.
    The government WILL be taking a chunk of everyones money in the not too distant future, maybe skim 10% from everyones bank accounts. Can’t be done with cryptos (depending on the back doors in SHA-256, which most new coins do not use).

    But hey, you wanna be a blind sheep, that’s your call. May the brainwashing of the masses continue. Just don’t expect me not to point and laugh when you get deeply screwed and stuck in 1984.

    EDIT:
    Bitcoin is just like the internet. In the early days of the net people were “nope, don’t trust it, don’t see the point, it’s a fad, it won’t last” just like people are about the bitcoin protocol now.
    With statements like the above, you’re putting yourself in that same boat who’ll look really silly really soon.

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