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  • #5449

    Deathbal
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    If you snipe with a baby missile against a mag, the mag usually blows up and the guy is still alive with minor to no damage. If you do this with a frog, you can kill the guy and the mag. If you do this with a baby nuke or regular nuke, you get the same results as the baby missile. Why is that?

    Where does the explosion go? You would think if a full nuke shot under a little green mag, it would kill the occupant. But it doesn’t. Hardly injures him.

    Nuke-Armslevel – 4
    Baby nuke 6
    Leap Frog- 7

    I’m just curious as to how the nuke actually works.

    #41425

    Thrax
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    @deathbal wrote:

    If you snipe with a baby missile against a mag, the
    mag usually blows up and the guy is still alive with minor to no damage.
    If you do this with a frog, you can kill the guy and the mag. If you do this
    with a baby nuke or regular nuke, you get the same results as the baby
    missile. Why is that?

    Where does the explosion go? You would think if a full nuke shot under a
    little green mag, it would kill the occupant. But it doesn’t. Hardly injures
    him.

    Nuke-Armslevel – 4
    Baby nuke 6
    Leap Frog- 7

    I’m just curious as to how the nuke actually works.

    The only difference between a default BBM, and most other explosion, is
    simply the “size” of the explosion. the damage done by BBM, BB-nuke,
    Nuke, and many more, is still only 1 =100hp

    #41426

    Brain Damage
    Participant

    as thrax said, (in a no mod game) the only difference is the size of the explosion

    the max damage is the same (100)

    but maximium damage would be dealt only when the explosion would be centred on the target, hence to achive 1-shot:1-kill a nuke requies the same accuracy of a baby missile

    excuse me my bad ascii art, this is an example:

    baby missile
    13699631 (damage dealt)
    –Target


    > (distance)

    nuke:
    1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 (damage dealt)


    Target


    > (distance)

    a leap frog generates 3 explosions, each one with max damage 100; therefore it’s capable of making 300 damage, when echo explosion is centred on the target

    baby rollers are even more powerful in this way; each roller makes an explosion with maxdamage 100 & a roller_missile release 8 rollers, having potentiality of making 800 damage to a target when each of them collides with it

    #41427

    Deathbal
    Participant

    Ok, I kind of understand the difference now with rollers, frogs, and nukes.

    I was just assuming the larger explosion would have more impact on the tank itself. Because a nuke can kill an unshielded tank even if the shot is just a little off, where a baby missile wouldn’t do that. So if I understand correctly, the nuke is simply a crator creator? If that’s the case, I just figured the armslevel of a nuke should be a bit higher.

    Will 1 heavy roller destroy a mag and tank?

    #41428

    Ebonite
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    one heavy roller (one individual roller) will only take off 100 HP, so it will just take off the mag. it will also make a crater, so if the target doesn’t have chutes, it will take faling damage, but it won’t take direct damage.

    #41429

    cbx550f
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    Interesting thread….

    I’m wondering if DB has a good point here: Shouldn’t nukes have a stronger hurtamount? (You would likely have to reduce the radius to find a new balance)

    I’m not sure what it was like in the original Scorched, but it seems to me that a nuke should have a greater hurt amount AND radius than a BBM, but perhaps a frog should have a higher hurtamount with a similar radius….

    Not sure yet, but so,ething to think about. 😉

    cbx

    #41430

    Deathstryker
    Participant

    Yes…. Some weapons deal more damage than others in the original Scorched…. Like missiles for instance:

    @Scorched Manual wrote:

    Missile- The Missile is an enhancement of the baby missile,
    increasing both the blast radius and the damage delivered.

    #41431

    BOY
    Participant

    I love nukes, always reliable for one shot kill on a target without mag! 😀

    #41432

    Deathbal
    Participant

    I pretty much understand how it works now. Thanks for the replies.

    #41433

    Chopper
    Participant

    @boy wrote:

    I love nukes, always reliable for one shot kill on a target without mag! 😀

    You got it Boy! ……you hammerdance to???Uhoh Uhoh Uhoh 😆

    #41434

    BOY
    Participant

    the nuke can easily be coded to have a higher power toward the center by the way, deathbal. And I have often wondered if the standard nuke should be changed a bit (but I mostly like to complain about funkies :P)

    all that needs to be done is to create a second mini explosion of less power to add a bit of puch to it.

    Also, i do think in standard no mod the shield collision damage is the same for just about all projectiles. Really aught to be higher for nuke, lower for baby missile ya know. It is that way in mods like mine, but the old fashioned way is good too 😀

    #41435

    Deathbal
    Participant

    I don’t know that the nuke should be changed. The mags and shields have to be good for something, right? Maybe make them cheaper. Like instead of 6k each, 3 or 4 k each.

    Why is everything always sold seperately? Ever go the a restaurant and get like chicken and ribs? Why not be able to buy a “Roller Variety pack”? Like 1 heavy, 3, med. , and 5 baby rollers for 8k.

    Or even a nuke sampler with 2 nukes and 2 babies for 13k or something like that?

    #41436

    FREAK
    Participant

    DEATHBAL!!!!!!!

    Take a look at my post in the “already requested requests” forum in the feature and request forum.(duh!)

    I have the relatively same idea as you Deathbal.

    #41437

    Deathbal
    Participant

    I just looked, it is a good request. “Packs” could be a seperate tab. It’s good to make players more versitile in early rounds. Instead of only have 1 or 2 weapons to use. It gives people more weapons choices without having to be rich.

    #41438

    JiNx
    Participant

    i like the idea of weapon packs 😀

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