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  • #5506

    SPYRER
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    Here link on the full text of by Michael Crichton

    http://www.crichton-official.com/speeches/speeches_quote04.html

    beside making you laugh it will make you think, with all the press about global warming all the politics about in both here and Germany and the States. There are some thing that don’t make the debates.

    Right now energy sources that can be reused (wind solar geothermal) are to expensive for developed countries (US Europe etc) but forcing other countries to use them or to stop using fossile fuels will hinder their growth and keep them from catching up to the developed countries. For example African nations.

    Global warming is based for the most part on computer forcast models, forcast models cannot predict current weather more then a couple days in advance so are you going to trust them for a hundred years in advance?

    Hard facts confirm sea levels are not rising, all the worlds glaciers are not melting, and a theory is not a fact. We still as a world haven’t settled the whole Darwin debate, but we are being to forced to pay for another big theory?

    Sorry thats’s my rant

    #42101

    cbx550f
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    Finally got around to reading that essay – quite interesting; thanks for pointing it out, Spy.

    I was recently involved in an impromptu Global Warming debate – I was arguing that we don’t really know if things are warming. (Mostly just for fun, as people hate it when you argue against a popular theory).

    I got started when I noticed that whenever we have a warm couple weeks, global warming hits the news, but when the weather is cold, it never does. 😉

    Also, I read something one day that, in Canada, summers have been warmer (on average) than normal for 70 years. I argue that we’ve only been keeping proper records since about 1935 – where did they get “normal” from?
    Add to that that eveyone knows that temperatures on the Earth fluctuate – we cannot form a long-term trend by looking at 50 years of data. That’s like suggesting that since I’ve had a couple dates in the past few weeks that I’m going to continue to be surrounded by women in the future.

    The second-hand smoke thing I found interesting as well; it amazes me how often I have heard people say, and believe, that second-hand smoke is worse than “first hand” – and they think that means that the non-smoker is hurt more than the smoker. That has to be the most insensible pile of rubbish I have ever heard.
    I’m a smoker, not proud of it, but I am. I know it’s bad for me, and I also know it’s not good for those around me. However, I can’t help but think of some of the TV ads I’ve seen saying that “Joyce here died from second-hand smoke”; How do they know that?
    If it were a statistical summary of non-smokers that lived/worked in smoking environments comapred to those who did not, and cancerous diseases killed x% more of those who were in smoking environments, I can buy it. Cancer isn’t only for those around smoke – anyone can have it. Because one person contracts lung cancer it does not definitively mean that it was caused by cigarette smoke. Perhaps it was the contributing factor, but then again, maybe it was not – we simply have no way of knowing.

    The popular arguments about global warming and second-hand smoke both end up with good resluts, to be sure – There’s no question that we should be doing our best to curb our pollutants; both to the Earth and to others around us. (I’m a smoker who is actually happy about smoking being banned in restaurants and pubs – I could never stand the smoke, ironically enough).

    Anyway, my date just called – so rant over. 😉

    #42102

    Deathbal
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    I am not happy about smoking being banned in pubs especially. It’s legal, it should be the business owners decision. Government should not be passing laws based on what some people find annoying. Lets face it, that’s what it’s primarily about. Good thing we still have a few restaurants that allow it here in NJ. Also lets not forget that smoking is still allowed on the casino floors. I guess the health risk doesn’t matter there.

    About global warming. I found this interesting. Parts 1-6

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSo2VSsDqsk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Venw45DNX5g

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRcIVBwrTVk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWaKP2Dj7Xc

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwQxCq59_g4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcRc_UuK5To

    #42103

    Metal Slug Mario
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    @deathbal wrote:

    I am not happy about smoking being banned in pubs especially. It’s legal, it should be the business owners decision. Government should not be passing laws based on what some people find annoying. Lets face it, that’s what it’s primarily about. Good thing we still have a few restaurants that allow it here in NJ. Also lets not forget that smoking is still allowed on the casino floors. I guess the health risk doesn’t matter there.

    About global warming. I found this interesting. Parts 1-6

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSo2VSsDqsk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Venw45DNX5g

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRcIVBwrTVk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWaKP2Dj7Xc

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwQxCq59_g4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcRc_UuK5To

    i got to agrre with ya there db. im tired of laws bein passed just because a few pepole are annoyed by it. the government only passes em really because they get tired of all the junk mail i believe

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