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  • #4769

    hobbesme
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    Is it possible to add a captcha to these forums’ PHP login to help eliminate the number of bots that spam our forums?

    I’d rather have a single, random captcha every time I login versus entering captcha’s every time a message is posted. But I’d even be willing to enter a captcha for every post if necessary.

    Then again, there may be no bots spamming our forums. Maybe human jackasses are wasting their time advertising their shrimp & Ed.

    What do you all think?

    #33012

    cbx550f
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    #33013

    apache64d
    Participant

    Good idea!
    Both hobbes and cbx ideas can be realy helpful. I hope something will be done with the spambots, soon.
    Every day the admin are truly making compotions “who will get the spammer (which been checked IDed first) first and ban himit”.
    Everyday more then 5 spammers are being ban(maybe even 10).

    #33014

    imported_gcamp
    Participant

    Both good suggestions.

    I’ve changed the memberlist so it displays when a user is banned or not. Banned users and users with <10 posts have their web site hidden to prevent back links to sites (giving them popularity).

    This list shows the extent of the number of spam bots over the last few weeks. I’ll tidy these some time in the future.

    So, I’ve changed the captcha used for initial registration from the standard PHP one to one that is harder to crack. I’ve also implemented the idea of having one for login requests too.

    If people find this anoying they can use the auto-login feature so they don’t see it.

    If this doesn’t stop spam I’ll try the question based captcha next.

    #33015

    cbx550f
    Participant

    Good stuff. Thanks.

    I must say, I’d rather see your time spent on the game though. 😉 (great work the past few days!)

    cbx

    #33016

    jdog
    Participant

    @gcamp wrote:

    Both good suggestions.

    I’ve changed the memberlist so it displays when a user is banned or not. Banned users and users with <10 posts have their web site hidden to prevent back links to sites (giving them popularity).

    This list shows the extent of the number of spam bots over the last few weeks. I’ll tidy these some time in the future.

    So, I’ve changed the captcha used for initial registration from the standard PHP one to one that is harder to crack. I’ve also implemented the idea of having one for login requests too.

    If people find this anoying they can use the auto-login feature so they don’t see it.

    If this doesn’t stop spam I’ll try the question based captcha next.

    While this is a good idea. I can’t always use the auto login when I’m at work. 😉 I get some free time. 😯 It took me 5 or 6 times to get logged in for the first time after this extra step was put into place. Some of the letters I couldn’t tell if it was upper case or lower or in a few places what the letter was, it looked cut in half.

    #33017

    hobbesme
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    @hobbesme wrote:

    Is it possible to add a captcha to these forums’ PHP login to help eliminate the number of bots that spam our forums?
    I’d rather have a single, random captcha every time I login versus entering captcha’s every time a message is posted.

    It never ceases to amaze me how quickly Mr. Camp can respond to some feature requests & bug reports. I can’t even check-out a file as fast as he can update a whole build.

    Thank you all for responding to this request which I hope seriously reduces the amount of unwanted shrimp & spam.

    #33018

    Irishbandit
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    @hobbesme wrote:

    @hobbesme wrote:

    Is it possible to add a captcha to these forums’ PHP login to help eliminate the number of bots that spam our forums?
    I’d rather have a single, random captcha every time I login versus entering captcha’s every time a message is posted.

    It never ceases to amaze me how quickly Mr. Camp can respond to some feature requests & bug reports. I can’t even check-out a file as fast as he can update a whole build.

    Thank you all for responding to this request which I hope seriously reduces the amount of unwanted shrimp & spam.

    Ok i know what spam stands for and SPIT what does shrimp stand for??

    #33019

    hobbesme
    Participant

    @hobbesme wrote:

    Thank you all for responding to this request which I hope seriously reduces the amount of unwanted shrimp & spam.

    @irishbandit wrote:

    Ok i know what spam stands for and SPIT what does shrimp stand for??

    It’s a word play; highlight the answer as follows:

    porn = pr0n = prawn = shrimp

    #33020

    apache64d
    Participant

    LOL hobes

    Ty Gavin. That was fast!

    😯

    #33021

    imported_gcamp
    Participant

    @jdog wrote:

    @gcamp wrote:

    Both good suggestions.

    I’ve changed the memberlist so it displays when a user is banned or not. Banned users and users with <10 posts have their web site hidden to prevent back links to sites (giving them popularity).

    This list shows the extent of the number of spam bots over the last few weeks. I’ll tidy these some time in the future.

    So, I’ve changed the captcha used for initial registration from the standard PHP one to one that is harder to crack. I’ve also implemented the idea of having one for login requests too.

    If people find this anoying they can use the auto-login feature so they don’t see it.

    If this doesn’t stop spam I’ll try the question based captcha next.

    While this is a good idea. I can’t always use the auto login when I’m at work. 😉 I get some free time. 😯 It took me 5 or 6 times to get logged in for the first time after this extra step was put into place. Some of the letters I couldn’t tell if it was upper case or lower or in a few places what the letter was, it looked cut in half.

    All the letters are upper case, I’ve also just changed the comparison to be case insensitive so that should make things easier.

    #33022

    Brain Damage
    Participant

    FYI the login boxes at the bottom of the page are not working anymore, you have to click “login to check your messages”, or click to reply a post to get the correct login screen, the one with the capthca (the weird letters to be more clear :P).

    before keeping reading, no i’m not annoyed by the captcha every time i login, but still i’d like to suggest the following:

    what about a captcha exclusion for the login if the member has been proofed to being human? (checks if the member exist, if it has been proofed to being human, if no validate the captcha)

    i was thinking 2 ways:

    if the member has already more than X posts
    if the number is a bit high it would be for sure not a bot since they change login everytime and they make at most 5-6 posts (and gets banned after)

    AND/OR

    you can proof to being human by copying your official server’s unique id to your profile (the forums will check after that unique id exists), i belive this would work too since a spam bot wouldn’t know anyhting about scorched unique ids and even it would fill the field with random data the database can still be parsed; please if this solution will be implementied add also an option “display user stats” true/false in the user profile

    #33023

    BOY
    Participant

    @Brain Damage wrote:

    FYI the login boxes at the bottom of the page are not working anymore, you have to click “login to check your messages”, or click to reply a post to get the correct login screen, the one with the capthca (the weird letters to be more clear :P).

    before keeping reading, no i’m not annoyed by the captcha every time i login, but still i’d like to suggest the following:

    what about a captcha exclusion for the login if the member has been proofed to being human? (checks if the member exist, if it has been proofed to being human, if no validate the captcha)

    i was thinking 2 ways:

    if the member has already more than X posts
    if the number is a bit high it would be for sure not a bot since they change login everytime and they make at most 5-6 posts (and gets banned after)

    AND/OR

    you can proof to being human by copying your official server’s unique id to your profile (the forums will check after that unique id exists), i belive this would work too since a spam bot wouldn’t know anyhting about scorched unique ids and even it would fill the field with random data the database can still be parsed; please if this solution will be implementied add also an option “display user stats” true/false in the user profile

    I AGREE! <– CAPS LOCK STILL ON FROM HAVING TO CONFRIM THAT I AM HUMAN.

    Honestly, I thought the spam thing was pretty manageble as it was. I check the forums several times a day, and I find spam only a few times a week.

    #33024

    imported_gcamp
    Participant

    @boy wrote:

    Honestly, I thought the spam thing was pretty manageble as it was. I check the forums several times a day, and I find spam only a few times a week.

    So did I until I checked the last few weeks of forum members, 90% of them have been banned for being bots. Have a look.

    #33025

    imported_gcamp
    Participant

    @Brain Damage wrote:

    what about a captcha exclusion for the login if the member has been proofed to being human? (checks if the member exist, if it has been proofed to being human, if no validate the captcha)

    How does it know to display the captcha or not?
    It will not know which user is trying to login before they are logged in 🙂

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