October 18, 2013 at 12:46 pm #65810
Good Morning PeanutsRevenge :
Just a reminder to let you know that I’m still waiting on
your reply to my previous request. As you may imagine,
it is difficult to respond properly to a generic complaint.
You charged me with spewing bullshit :
I responded with documentation regarding the
salaries of hospital CEO’s in the United States.
Not sure I’d pegged you as a regurgitator of
bullshit before Rommel, just a gurgitator.
The post, Jeopardy 2020, that I linked for you a few
days ago was intended to help you see that stating
your answer in the form of a question, was likely to
provide you with better results than simply stating
that you didn’t understand my post(s).
I fail to understand what you’re trying to get at?
At least, what you might be trying to get across
that you don’t think we already know.
Wishing you a sunny and enjoyable weekend.
RommelOctober 20, 2013 at 4:49 pm #65811
Greetings fellows! I thought i’d weigh in on something regarding this thread. Not so much about the shutdown, but about unions. Those that know me know I am a conservative in most aspects. But I do take issue to union bashing.
I do realize unions can be an employees worst enemy in certain cases. That’s just a fact. But unions are not useless in every scenario. On the plus side Unions help dime a dozen employees make a decent salary, and as a result raise the pay of the private sector within the same field. If you were to take all unions out of the picture, you are creating a huge sector of the population making 8 dollars an hour. Unskilled labor have been making that since the late 80’s early 90’s. At some point something has to give. I drink and smoke 8 dollars an hour.
The obvious drawback to this is as a tax payer I end up subsidizing employees wages through government aid. As a conservative Republican I understand a job is worth what people are willing to take for that job. But as a realist I do not want to be a part of subsidizing cheap labor. I feel the employer has more of a responsibility to pay their employees than the tax payer.
All in all I think unions have their role. I do not believe they should dominate the workforce, but a small union presence (where needed) would compliment the workforce. To eliminate unions altogether will make us a much poorer country overall. Big business will be the only entity to reap the benefits, not only from much cheaper labor, but aided by the tax payer toward that goal.October 20, 2013 at 5:19 pm #65812
Those that know me
Got locked up in an asylum, hence the deathly low player base that now exists.
Oh and HEY db, long time old killer.
Not gonna weigh in further on the union debate as that’s for another thread and I have exclusively known unions to be bad in my experience, so cba 🙂October 20, 2013 at 8:13 pm #65813
Well ByGod HOWDY ! (West Virginia greeting)
I’m not going to say much right now but I did want to pop in and say
that I’m happy to see you again. About your Conservative Badge :
Greetings fellows! I thought i’d weigh in on something regarding this
thread. Not so much about the shutdown, but about unions. Those
that know me know I am a conservative in most aspects. But I do
take issue to union bashing.
I expected you would be wearing that Skeptics Shield I mailed to
you. By definition, there is nothing wrong with being conservative.
On the other hand, being A Conservative, implies many negatives.
As A Conservative, you should support the Union bashing as well.
Funny stuff, eh ?
The political label, no longer represents cautious resistance to change.
If anything, both sides, liberals and conservatives, seem to be wildly
intent on running us at full speed ahead into iceberg laden waters.
I’m really very happy that you decided to write.
It’s been a long time … too long.
Other that that one irony … I thought you did a very good job of
defending the Unions and your position on why they are a critical
component, if our economy is to have a substantial middle class.
Well done indeed.
RommelOctober 20, 2013 at 8:30 pm #65814
…. The obvious drawback to this is as a tax payer I end up subsidizing employees wages through government aid. As a conservative Republican I understand a job is worth what people are willing to take for that job. But as a realist I do not want to be a part of subsidizing cheap labor. I feel the employer has more of a responsibility to pay their employees than the tax payer.
The increase won’t all be absorbed by the employer …they will raise their prices.
…. All in all I think unions have their role. I do not believe they should dominate the workforce, but a small union presence (where needed) would compliment the workforce. To eliminate unions altogether will make us a much poorer country overall. Big business will be the only entity to reap the benefits, not only from much cheaper labor, but aided by the tax payer toward that goal.
the role of unions a long time ago were a lot different than today.
Today, they mutated into a facade for organized crime to line their own pockets and launder money from Las Vegas.
Its a complex subject that bottom line, unions have cost the older manufacturers a lot in legacy costs.
ie: US car makers move to Canada and mexico while Toyota, Nissan, Kia and others move here….without a union.
We live in a global world for sure.October 20, 2013 at 8:35 pm #65815
Hi PeanutsRevenge :
I’m very pleased that you were able to escape the booby
hatch. I hardly had a wink of sleep waiting on your reply.
Got locked up in an asylum, hence the
deathly low player base that now exists.
In reading my older posts, I saw where I said something about a
Foster’s can. If that was the post you intended to quote, then
yes, that portion of that post was bull shit.
Actually, it’s not much bigger around than a can of spray paint.
Take care they don’t catch you, and try to write back soon.
P.S. : Although this is your thread, a great many of our Federal
employees are Union workers. Thus, please allow those of us
that wish to debate the need for Unions to have a little space.
There is much fertile ground here that has hardly been touched.October 23, 2013 at 5:10 pm #65816
Open Letter to All :
On Wednesday, October 16, 2013, I posted the following letter to
pastor of muppets, regarding the displeasure he showed over the
increase to his families insurance premiums and deductables next
year (presumably, due to the insurance law known as Obama Care) :
- Hi POM :
Your premiums were going up all the same. The illegal aliens that
low life employers are working in our country are bleeding us dry in
emergency room visits and bastard births alone. Then there are the
serious cases that have to be treated if they make it to the door.
If $ 10,000 per day is an acceptable figure, for intensive or monitored
care, then you can easily see that an indigent patient that stays for
30 days, removes $300,000 from the local economy. Note : This is a
single patient and pertains only to the hospital charges. There will be
additional charges for additional services.
Those of us that legally reside here and pay our own way, absorb the(see : hospital CEO salary).
costs from the health care system in one way or another. We are the
only valid resource. The CEO’s don’t care anymore about ilegal aleins
than the employers. Thus it is unreasonable to expect them to take a
lower salary to help ease the burden
- Our hospital CEO makes $ 1.25 Million per year. In a
city 30 miles away, the hospital CEO only makes
$ 750,000 per year. You know he wants a raise.
We can either kill them or treat them. If we treat them, then we
must pay the costs incurred. It sounds like you’d like to kill them.
Now that’s some funny stuff right there … Larry the Cable Guy.
PeanutsRevenge charged me with sprewing bull shit and
although I asked him to justify his charge ( for a week )
he has failed to make even one attempt at justification.
- @peanutsrevenge wrote:
Not sure I’d pegged you as a regurgitator of
bullshit before Rommel, just a gurgitator.
His refusal to address the charge, suggests
that he has little or no regard for the truth.
RommelOctober 23, 2013 at 8:24 pm #65817
- California Petition Picking Up Speed
A petition is being circulated in San Diego, California to
address the problems expected if the cuts to the Federal
budget go into effect. It’s quite an eye opening petition.
This short video (3 min) says more in the first 30 seconds
than I could say if I tried to type for the next 30 minutes.
The comments from registered voters are worth your time.
Edit 1 : EGADS ! I’m glad Chopper didn’t quote me.
Changed is to are : registered voters is worth your time.October 23, 2013 at 9:25 pm #65818
Hello All :
The excerpt that follows the quote from PeanutsRevenge is
intended to help clarify the type of public assistance system
Britain is trying to administer and the problems experienced.
My comments to my linked article (can check source yourselves if you wish):
peanutsrevenge • 7 hours ago
Being a Brit, this whole thing completely bemuses me.
We have universal healthcare. Everyone (that earns over X amount) pays a percentage of their income for ‘NI – National Insurance’. If you’re sick, injured, ill, diagnosed with something, you go and get medical attention and it cost nothing more.
If you’d like a private room, to be seen quicker etc.. you can take private medical insurance ontop of N.I. for all the frills on top of being taken care of.
However, we also HAVE to take insurance on our cars for them to be legal. Doesn’t have to be all whistles and bells, can just cover the other party should it be your error, but we can get better insurance to cover our car’s/injuries etc…
Works well here, I’ve always had really good care in our ‘National Health Service’ and only a couple of people I know complain about their treatment, they’re the kind of people that complain their sheets aren’t silk and they pay too much N.I.
To which there was a reply:
Steveng peanutsrevenge • 4 hours ago −
But you are not forced to use it.
peanutsrevenge Steveng • 36 minutes ago −
We’re forced to pay National Insurance and we’re forced to have car insurance (should we choose to have a car). The car insurance (3rd party minimum) I fully agree with. Can harm others and/or their property with a car and you should have the means to right that wrong immediately.
However, we’re not forced to have a car.
The biggest difference here, which I initially thought was the intention there, that those who can’t afford medical care don’t have to pay for it (at least until they’re able to pay a share). There it seems to be a new tax on everyone, including the poor.
I heard today that the cheapest insurance will be $100 and that was meant to be really good. My jaw dropped at that!
Britain’s anger at EC opposition to restriction on migrant benefits
Currently, all people seeking work in Britain are eligible for Jobseeker’s
Allowance, of £56.80 a week. They do not need to have previously
paid tax or National Insurance, making the benefit “non-contributory”.
This also applies to other benefits, including housing benefit, child
benefit and child tax credit. In 2004, the Government introduced a
“right to reside” test which asks immigrants to prove that they are
“economically active”, which can include actively seeking work, or
are self-supporting, before they can claim many non-contributory
benefits, in particular Jobseeker’s Allowance.
But the EC says this breaks EU law because non-contributory
benefits should be equally available to all EU citizens. The right to
reside test is not applied to UK citizens. Later this year it will
formally start a case at the European Court of Justice to try to
stop the use of the right to reside test.
You can read the entire article at The Telegraph
RommelOctober 23, 2013 at 11:02 pm #65819
Look. Yesterday the radio news reported that the stock market was up on the news of a weak jobs report since it means that the FED will most likely continue the easing policies and low interest rates.
PROOF POSITIVE that we’re so screwed. NO JOBS = STOCK PROFITS. There is now a direct correlation. The average guy’s job is completely unhooked from the economy, and the more the government spends on his unemployment benefits, the better the corporate profits. This is all you need to know about the state of the financial world today.
All I care about is that the Fox News reporters are all sexy. As far as the budget, it doesn’t matter. It is just a document legalizing the expenditure of vast amounts of resources on national security that we’d reather not know about.
If it costs 1 million to set up a good website, but the government spends 600 million, that’s not waste, that’s a shell game. The money is being spent overseas to keep me safe in my house watching CNN and bitching about the Republicans.
Jobs? We don’t need them. We can just not work and be fine.
Health Care? Just don’t bother to sign up, I’ll get taxed and get the same emergency room care I always got before.October 24, 2013 at 10:39 pm #65820
Hello BOY and All :
Had I thought your post to be totally serious, I think I would
have done something else besides sending this reply to you :
Your observation on the stock market and how it seems to
react totally opposite to what seems natural when we post
bad employment numbers is something that some friends
(here at home) and I have been discussing for many years.
This is one of the best (short) articles that I have read on it :
- Food Stamp Corporate Welfare
If you think the SNAP food stamps debate is about poor people’s
need to eat, you’re wrong. It’s about big corporations’ need to
profit. “Xerox, JPMorgan Chase and eFunds Corporation have all
successfully turned poverty into a profit center.” So have
Coca Cola, Kroger, Wal-Mart, Kelloggs and a large slice of the
rest of the Fortune 500 corporations.
By allowing the machine to profit heavily off of poverty, the
natural course seems that we will perpetuate it indefinately.
However, no matter how high profits go, the nature of the
beast is to always be on the lookout for another increase.
Although you made me laugh, your previous post was a bit
saddening as a great many people seem to think that way.
About the Fox girls, being safe in your own home, etc..
I hope that you have the time to read the article and that
you’ll be posting something new soon. It’s always good to
discuss things and especially things where we disagree.
Best wishes to All,
RommelOctober 25, 2013 at 7:45 pm #65821
Dear Netizens :
While waiting on someone else to post something, I thought
that the recent statement from Israel’s Prime Minister on the
problem of Illegal Aliens in Israel was on topic for this thread.
- @Benjamin Netanyahu wrote:
- It’s impossible to stop infiltration through the [border] fence
alone. We need to continue taking the measures that have so
far definitively stopped infiltration to Israel — a physical barrier
alongside effective legal tools. Illegal infiltrators have no
privileges at the expense of Israeli citizens.
Britain and the United States are not the only countries that are
staggering from the weight of trying to provide free benefits to
those that have not earned them. However, unlike the USA, the
Brits and the Israelis enforce the laws enacted to protect their
workers from being pillaged, raped and robbed by invaders.
- Note : The Brits may soon be forced to treat all
EU subjects on British soil, as subjects of the crown.
( see past post ) If this happens, I expect that the
Greeks and others suffering from austerity will rapidly
bankrupt non-contributory social programs in Britain.
Current visa restrictions are in place to protect American
workers. Refusing to enforce visa and immigration laws is
much easier than trying to repeal the existing protections,
although new immigration laws are being considered.
American’s out of work, more families drowning in poverty
every day. Most everyone else treading water with dead
weights hung about their necks. Yes, it’s definately time
we stopped worring about enforcing existing laws. Right ?
If we aren’t enforcing current laws that protect American
workers, there is little reason to suspect that new laws
will be intended to strenghten our unenforced protections.
However, there is good reason to suspect that our existing
protections will be decreased or perhaps even eliminated.
- Note to Deathbal : A good Skeptic is always cautiously
resistant to change, ie., conservative. No A though.
Enforce the laws on the books first and foremost. After
that, I suggest this immediate change to current law :
If corporations would rather work outsiders than Americans, then
they must be legally compelled to ensure that all imported workers
are completely self sufficient and do not in any way infringe on the
struggling American tax payers that still have jobs.
This includes ensuring that each and every one of these
imported workers has a valid work visa under current law.
No food stamps, no free health care, no Social Security SSI
payments, no workman’s comp, no unemployment, no free
schooling, no illegal and discriminatory in state tuition rate,
nothing. Nothing at all except what the employers provide.
The employer must be fully and totally liable for them until
they become a Citizen or leave American soil. This includes
any and all immediate family members that are residing here.
This will still allow employers to obtain exceptional workers
(worth the cost) that wish to obtain brokered employment.
This sounds like a fair arrangement for all concerned.
Best wishes in your search for liberty and justice for all.
- Edit 1 : Removed redundency – “deceased or perhaps even eliminated,”
Edit 2 : Grrrrr, Added Highilght color and indentation to edit section.October 27, 2013 at 8:16 pm #65822
We play this game to escape the political bs that goes on around this country….just as it does in most countries around the world.
Don’t really have to come here to be reminded about it all. [-X
It used to be really nice and quiet around here.October 27, 2013 at 10:01 pm #65823
Hi Chopper :
Game ? What is the game you mentioned? Monopoly with real cash?
Real lives in the balance. Do not pass Go. Go straight to jail? What?
We play this game to escape the political bs that goes on around
this country….just as it does in most countries around the world.
Don’t really have to come here to be reminded about it all. [-X
It used to be really nice and quiet around here.
So, things are bad in your town too? Poor people keeping you
up late, drinking and laughing on beer you had to buy them?
I get neighbors like that around here from time to time.
Fortunately, they don’t stay very long. Perhaps they
drink it up to the point that they can’t pay the rent.
: I’m pleased that you joined KAWSIME ! Welcome my brother.
Have you seen Willis? He got a Death’sHead and then disappeared.October 28, 2013 at 10:24 pm #65824
You know what?….ah…. never mind. won’t waste my breath.
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