500 seems like a lot BOY if a few people end up joining and want to go to main it could take a while to achieve the 500. I have gotten 24 kills in a game and 20+ in another already so I think 50 would be plenty, a couple of game on beginners then away you go to main. If enough players showed up willing to go to main and fight without the pesky bots they may be willing to stay a couple of games on beginners to get in there. It is highly unlikely they would want to stay for 20 game or so to get there.
Okay forget the kill limit, I still say the Beginners should be in havoc mode.
I realise most of us here are after a slower paced game, but the fact is, the world outside of our little realm wants blood and action. Even our “havoc” mode as Thrax calls it, is far from Call of Duty Modern Warfar. Very far.
nononono dont forget the kill limit, just tone er down some. The limit is a great idea. 50 kills seems fair enough, enough to give a taste, and keep people interested. Pls consider this option, i think it would encourage some people to continue playing instead of playing other games 🙂