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  • #54004

    BOY
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    @ Viking 😉

    @bigbear wrote:

    Being from a country that has government funded higher education I think it’s a good system that is an example of tax money well spent.

    As for the rest of it (specifically the latter posts), to me it looks an awful lot like …

    “A form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion. – Robert O. Paxton, The Anatomy of Fascism”

    actually it is nothing like that. There is no militarism, or violence advocated in my plan whatsoever. It is funny how europeans so quickly throw the fascism card around. Of course the plan is full of holes and conceptually almost impossible. The point is simply Anti-socialism.

    If you recall the old days in the Americas I believe it was property owners who were the only one’s who could vote. Why? because they had an actual stake in the land. Logical and sensible.

    Now, as to the servant class at the time, which were black slaves and also women, they had no say, and that was wrong.

    What is also wrong is for some guy to say to a bunch of poor people, “hey, elect me, I’m going to take that rich guys money and give it to you instead”. That sets up a permanent second class that survives on the taxation of the rich.

    #54003

    BigBear
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    @boy wrote:

    actually it is nothing like that. There is no militarism, or violence advocated in my plan whatsoever. It is funny how europeans so quickly throw the fascism card around. Of course the plan is full of holes and conceptually almost impossible. The point is simply Anti-socialism.

    Well if it would have matched the definition precisely I would simply have called it fascism. I am not saying it IS fascism, I am saying that the likeness is too close for comfort. Out of curiosity as you hinted at using words out of context, how is the direct opposite of your plan socialism? I would love to hear an explanation on that one.
    Speaking about funny, I find it hilarious when americans use the term “europeans”. Them are fighting words. We … are … NOT … one … group!!! 😉

    @boy wrote:

    If you recall the old days in the Americas I believe it was property owners who were the only one’s who could vote. Why? because they had an actual stake in the land. Logical and sensible.

    Now, as to the servant class at the time, which were black slaves and also women, they had no say, and that was wrong.

    So what are you saying, that as long as the reason is not gender or racial biassed revoking democratic rights is fine and dandy?

    @boy wrote:

    What is also wrong is for some guy to say to a bunch of poor people, “hey, elect me, I’m going to take that rich guys money and give it to you instead”. That sets up a permanent second class that survives on the taxation of the rich.

    This is an issue where we are not too far from each other. However, I’d claim that the rich are in no danger as it is the middle class that earn their money as employees that will pick up that tab.

    #54002

    bazzz
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    Yes it is funny how people refer to ones nationality as if that is an argument, almost as funny as suggesting we have to do something about “lazy people”

    Im a lazy person but i wouldnt know who else my group constitutes of, i guess the unemployed, homeless beggers, single mothers on welfare and drug addicts should be included with my group and maybe teachers, lawyers, politicians ,elite rich people, big bankers, and i am sure there are lots of other lazy bastards around.

    I dont know what can be done about us but im sure if we werent this lazy we could take over this world easily, if we just formed a group and got some guns.but we are just too lazy so i guess it will never happen.

    No unfortunatly there is no place in power for stupid and lazy people, its reserved for the smart and agressive ones.

    wow, i really can talk out of my anus.

    #54006

    Deathbal
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    This is an issue where we are not too far from each other. However, I’d claim that the rich are in no danger as it is the middle class that earn their money as employees that will pick up that tab.

    I agree with this if I understand you correctly. That is the reason to not go overboard on taxing the wealthy. And there is no way shape or form, we will create jobs by taxing the top 5% more.

    What is also wrong is for some guy to say to a bunch of poor people, “hey, elect me, I’m going to take that rich guys money and give it to you instead”. That sets up a permanent second class that survives on the taxation of the rich.

    Just listen to the last 25 seconds of this.

    http://video.nbc6.net/player/?id=797441

    #54007

    Viking62
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    @ Boy & DB 😉

    Is nice to have Scorched3D back!!

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