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  • #51963

    Irishbandit
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    That is not a appropriate avatar (not for this game anyway).

    Apache good to here from you. 😀

    #51964

    Loke
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    @thrax wrote:

    @loke wrote:

    You may have a message – I didnt get it at all – is it more acceptable to
    see an instrument of killing or violence than a pair of of breast. THIS IS A
    WAR GAME DO PARENTS APPROVE OF KILLING ONLY IF NUDITY IS
    ABSENT?

    In fact, even I as a parent don’t approve of extreme profanity or
    non-medical nudity.

    Which is why we as a Forum worked together to create a mod for
    younger audiences. Kids mod. Marble rollers, Pie-splat bombs,
    super-soaker flamethrowers, etc.

    The bombs and blasts in S3d are still only mild violence, since there is no
    gruesomeness or giblets..(except Spook-Mod). But We at least offer them
    a choice.

    Trax – there are different cultures which find human nudity obscene – mine is not one of them – think scandinavia – its not that extreme but censorship is very unlikely to be allowed.

    Make mods for kids and keep main of free very sensitive persons convictions.

    Loke;)

    #51965

    Thrax
    Participant

    @loke wrote:

    @thrax wrote:

    In fact, even I as a parent don’t approve of extreme profanity or
    non-medical nudity.

    Which is why we as a Forum worked together to create a mod for
    younger audiences. Kids mod. Marble rollers, Pie-splat bombs,
    super-soaker flamethrowers, etc.

    The bombs and blasts in S3d are still only mild violence, since there is no
    gruesomeness or giblets..(except Spook-Mod). But We at least offer them
    a choice.

    Trax – there are different cultures which dont find human nudity obscene
    – mine is not one of them – think scandinavia – its not that extreme but
    censorship is very unlikely to be allowed.

    Make mods for kids and keep main of free very sensitive persons convictions.

    Loke;)

    We don’t consider nudity as obscene, but rather something to be done
    in moderation around young impressionable minds. There are apparently
    those here that believe a Mod for S3d is more Obscene than displaying
    Porn to 5year-olds.
    I’ll reduce my mentioning of Mods, if you agree that a public game(open
    to all ages, races, and sex’s), should be treated with some moderation
    on content.

    Otherwise.. I’ll have to keep saying “Mods!”.. and all your over-seas
    children can point at it and giggle.. like ours would for “Boobies!”

    #51966

    pastor of muppets
    Participant

    Yes this is an artillery based game which artillery is used in war but this game does not depict actual war. Think of all the games that our children play, battleship (a game based on trying to sink your opponents ship and drown and kill all the young men and women aboard leaving their parents childless), clue (a game where someone has comitted a murder and it is your job to piece together all the clues to figure out where who and with what), Monopoly (where it is your job to ruthelessly collect rent from players going broke and then forcing them to sell their assets until eventually bankrupting them), and the list goes on. This game’s object is to shoot and “kill” other tanks, it however also teaches strategy, money management, mathematics, aggresiveness, and defense. I was just hoping not to include sex education in the list.

    It honestly bothers me that so many don’t see it as a big deal that a six year old was exposed to nudity on a video game that he likes to play.

    Oh and bazz my sister is obviously wearing a bikini in that avatar of mine!

    #51967

    Loke
    Participant

    Those young impressionable minds have seen some family members naked – even their mom – wow it will turn them into criminals or worse sinners.

    Argue why its bad for kids to look at very small avatars that only stat aficionados see for real;)

    Loke;)

    #51968

    Thrax
    Participant

    @loke wrote:

    Those young impressionable minds have seen some family members naked – even their mom – wow it will turn them into criminals or worse sinners.

    Argue why its bad for kids to look at very small avatars that only stat aficionados see for real;)

    Loke;)

    Look! Mods! <— Point!
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    ____Giggle!!

    #51969

    pastor of muppets
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    Loke my question is where do you draw the line then? If you honestly see no problem with my 6 year old seeing a woman’s breast whom he will never meet and for no other reason than entertainment where do you draw your line in the sand? Should I let him use a little bit of cocaine since it will just make him feel a little good and probably wont addict him, should I let him watch a few seconds of porn just so he knows where the penis goes and what sex really is, should I allow him to get a little drunk so he knows what a hangover is? We are talking about a six year old and my obligation as a father. I can not force my beliefs or morals on you all but I will on my children. I made a concious decision to be a father and with that comes unpopular things like trying to mold them into an honorable member of society after all they are little mirrors of myself. If it is decided that nudity is ok for s3d I can do nothing about that except deny my children the privelage of visiting this site which is fine. As a parent I do a lot of denying access to web sites. I am doing nothing more than being a dad as I should be doing and frankly I’m quite shocked that you feel it is no biggie for a six year old to be seeing nudity because it is just a small picture of breast.

    #51970

    Loke
    Participant

    Hi PoM

    As I said before – there are slippery slopes on both sides of this issue. If this is accepted will some players go down the porn route or will the political correctness censor every aspect of the game creating a nursing home type atmosphere. Should Derrick be allowed to use a gallow which is a symbol of the death penalty or even lynch mobs, DB was using a jolly roger for time – that did not cause trouble. Would it be ok for me to use the Danish flag which rightly could be associated with slave trade or the bloodbath in Stockholm or even offend devout people who believe that a certain long dead person should not be depicted with a bomb in his turban? I could fly the flag of the Imperial German Navy, what about Rommel using the name of a supporter* of the 3. Reich?

    More often than not the “problem” will go away as many players change their avatars on a regular basis, they could of course only test the limits and then change it to something even more “offending”.

    Is it a good idea to let 6 years old kids play a killing game, will they turn out as high school shooters?

    Its in the eye of the beholder.

    Loke;)

    *at least until he decided the war was lost and pressed Adolf for a political solution;)

    #51971

    Loke
    Participant

    Oh and remember to play more mods, you will feel much better;)

    #51972

    bazzz
    Participant

    Seems like there wont be an easy solution to resolve our polarised views, so how about asking Kat politely if he/she would like to self censor and see if thats helps your crusade.
    My point wasn`t that i think porn is apropriate on this site, but if this is what you see as porn i believe you need to reevaluate your definition of porn.Protecting minors from porn is the right thing to do but if you want to protect them from any form of nudity is one step too far.

    Pornography can give young children a distorted image of what sexuality means as typically it depicts a fantasy of sexual behaviour that has little to do with what it is in reality.The main point of pornograpy is to arouse.
    Nudity therefore is generally not considered porn. Altough some people dont think its appropriate it doent distort the image of the other sex.
    Children do not associate nudity with sex until they reach puberty unless thats what they are told to do.I can only hope that noone gives their children the impression that nudity is bad, it could i.m.o. hurt future relationships, think of only being able to have sex with the lights out(but i am speculating and some of you may think thats not a bad thing)

    I personally believe its as dangerous to overprotect children as to protect them too little.But i dont pretend to know what the right level of protection is, i only know- more is not always better (i may upset some cultures with that statement 😛 )

    So i really hope this community wont censor beyond reasonability, you wouldnt try to squash a fly with a sledgehammer(i may only hope)

    I dont intend to insult anyone with my views, if someone feels insulted i apologise.

    #51973

    BigBear
    Participant

    The forum/server rules state that no ponographical or sexually explicit images are allowed. After taking a look at the formal definition of the term sexually explicit I can’t see that any such offense has occurred in this case. Hence I can see no grounds for the admins to intervene in this matter. As a matter of fact I feel I would have to fight any such attempt under the current ruleset.

    I think it would be a very bad thing if the admins were to impose their own or others morality on what is allowed here besides what the rules dictate. Whether this site is appropriate or not for children of various ages is up to their respective parents to decide AFAIC.

    #51974

    Jock
    Participant

    Sorry i had to post on this as it is hilarious 😛 😛 😛

    Why is it the only ppl complaining about a pair of tits is the god fearing nations. It is rediculous to think that a pair of breasts has caused such a hoohaa!

    Every mother in the world has a pair and every child in the world has seen and sucked on a pair!

    I’m sure god and your wives will forgive you for looking, now say your hail mary’s, whip yourself and move along. There are more important things in life than breasts, yet you are all totally happy to promote violence.

    Sex is natural violence is intolerable!!!!! 😉

    #51975

    PeanutsRevenge
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    Lost patience with reading this thread half way through 2nd page, but might I point out, that it is rare that I can walk along the beach in summer and not see a topless woman!
    So, will you stop your children going to the beach?

    I do not see the fuss about human annatony, we are all pretty much the same, and children usually suck on their mothers nipples, this, apparently is fine in public, but having breasts out is not.

    The world is controlled by hypocrites!

    #51976

    Deathbal
    Participant

    I would agree with Bigbear as far as the ruleset on half of it. A pair of tits is not porn. But it may fall under the category of sexually explicit. Which just means, identify the sex of, among other things. The avatar does just that. I don’t really care one way or the other. But it is nudity, if you want that then it’s fine with me. But I would agree with with Pastor on this one.

    #51977

    apache64d
    Participant

    @deathbal wrote:

    A pair of tits is not porn. But it may fall under the category of sexually explicit. Which just means, identify the sex of, among other things. The avatar does just that. I don’t really care one way or the other. But it is nudity, if you want that then it’s fine with me. But I would agree with with Pastor on this one.

    That is exactly what I was gonna say but DB u wrote it better and faster.
    Just like when in cases like that at the past we asked the players to change thier avatar after they used this kind of avatars, then this is no diffrent. If in the rules it says that avatars like that are not allowed in here then it is NOT allowed.
    The rules hasn’t suddenly changed or something. I was gone so much time (from the 2nd of June to the 6th is that much?) that something changed? if this allowed then why not just cancel the words censorship and let all the swears be allowed and all other sexsual avatars be free to use…?
    I joined the admins crew in order to help this game and forum to be a nice place to be in. No bullsit, no craping swears no nudety (that I can find easly somewhere else if needed). No racism or rudness..ect.
    Just a good clean and quiet computer game forum/online game.
    The one this I don’t want this forum/game will turn in to is the game/forum Gunbound or others like it. Up there u can use what ever u want, any cheats u want and any f**king thing u want.
    This is not how is in here.
    We have some (not too many) rules about how to behave in here. Let’s stick to it.
    If any admin wanna try to change some rules he/she can freely try do that in the appropiate way at the admins forum..

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